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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The really sad thing is that the folks who came out from under their rocks to bring their toys and pound their chest in macho bravado to impress each other now believe they actually faced down the government. This will only encourage such insanity in the future.
    And those maroons claimed victory too.

    If I would have been in charge of the operation confronting those gunnys, I would have told my federal officers to remove their firearms, and lock them away out of sight, and approached the leader/s of the group, and told them to disperse. If they did not, more unarmed federal officers would be called in to arrest them all.

    Now, if they'd shot a couple of feds doing their jobs, I would ask for military assistance to take not violent action to arrest, overpowering those gunnys by sheer numbers.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Heavens. Out of all the people and entities that owe significant taxes - much more significant than Bundy - they go after Bundy, while the others walk. Sharpton is but one example. There are no armed federal agents surrounding Sharpton in an attempt to collect the taxes he owes. Bundy, however, is given the full knee-cap treatment. A reasonable person should wonder why the discrepancy. An unreasonable person probably doesn't care about such silly stuff as equal treatment under the law.
    Where are Al's cattle grazing?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Heavens. Out of all the people and entities that owe significant taxes - much more significant than Bundy - they go after Bundy, while the others walk. Sharpton is but one example. There are no armed federal agents surrounding Sharpton in an attempt to collect the taxes he owes. Bundy, however, is given the full knee-cap treatment. A reasonable person should wonder why the discrepancy. An unreasonable person probably doesn't care about such silly stuff as equal treatment under the law.
    What Bundy owes is not a tax . It is a user fee.
    More like rent than anything else.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Where are Al's cattle grazing?
    I believe they graze at the National Action Network. It's but one of his income sources, though.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What Bundy owes is not a tax . It is a user fee.
    More like rent than anything else.
    Good thing Bundy wasn't messing with Rangers in New Mexico, they shoot people for not paying up. They don't mess around there.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What Bundy owes is not a tax . It is a user fee.
    More like rent than anything else.
    Doesn't matter.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Doesn't matter.
    Yes it does, the subject is not paying user fees, not taxes. Stop trying to bend sheeet your own way.

    How many cattle does Al Sharpton own?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    What about Bundy’s claim that his forebears bought the land he is now accused of trespass grazing upon? This land was once Mexican land, and was won by the United States after the Mexican-American War. It is part of what is known as the “Mexican Cession.” All of Nevada, California, Arizona and most of New Mexico were part of the Cession. Much of this land was privatized under various grants and laws such as the Homestead Act and the Desert Lands Act, plus mining claims. Several million acres were granted to Nevada for state lands, but those lands that were not privatized have always been Mexican lands or United States lands owned by the U.S. government.
    Cliven Bundy Has No Claim to Federal Land and Grazing | The Wildlife News
    The land in question has ALWAYS been federal land, since we won the war with Mexico.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Doesn't matter.
    What doesn't matter is you conflating Sharpton owing taxes to Bundy owing fees and gathering armed folks support his theft.

    Sharpton has nothing to do with this situation. You bringing this up amounts to nothing more than a smoke screen.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    And those maroons claimed victory too.

    If I would have been in charge of the operation confronting those gunnys, I would have told my federal officers to remove their firearms, and lock them away out of sight, and approached the leader/s of the group, and told them to disperse. If they did not, more unarmed federal officers would be called in to arrest them all.

    Now, if they'd shot a couple of feds doing their jobs, I would ask for military assistance to take not violent action to arrest, overpowering those gunnys by sheer numbers.
    Sound strategy and I like how it was designed by you to not provoke violence with the unarmed officers doing the approaching of the armed vigilante mob. .
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