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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do however strongly believe that this entire episode is damning on both sides as it shows there is a fanatic fringe element out there who is ready to take up arms and sniper positions to kill government employees over a disagreement over public policy.
    I find it amazing, but not surprising, how the sycophants and toadies of tyrannical government will always blame the victims of government violence and never the government itself. I'm sure there were similar types who considered the militiamen at Lexington and Concord to be nut jobs who needed to be placed back underneath the bottom of the barrel from which they crawled. Such government bootlickers consider anyone who stands up with force to government tyranny to be nut jobs.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but don't these same extremists view their second amendment gun rights as providing legitimacy for the use of those arms in insurrection against the government?


    and once you have found the opposite side to now be the enemy in a shooting war, then all tactics - excepting those prohibited by the geneva conventions - become legitimate in that fight
    Very well said. I have felt for a long time now after reading the posts of some here on the far right of the gun issue that there are some out there just salivating in bloodlust waiting for the day of right wing jubilee so they can go to war against the government. Its really sad.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I find it amazing, but not surprising, how the sycophants and toadies of tyrannical government will always blame the victims of government violence and never the government itself. I'm sure there were similar types who considered the militiamen at Lexington and Concord to be nut jobs who needed to be placed back underneath the bottom of the barrel from which they crawled. Such government bootlickers consider anyone who stands up with force to government tyranny to be nut jobs.
    Victims of government violence? Just how is Bundy a victim of anything except his own refusal to honor his debts?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Harry Reid the communist senator has a son who has his pocketbook focused on some of that land along with Chinese communists investors to build solar plantations on that land. The scum sucking feds own 80% of the land in Nevada and will rent it out to tree huggers for solar profits but not to Americans raising animals.
    Sorry , wrong. The plot of land set for the solar development is at least 200 miles away from where Bundy is illegally grazing his cattle.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    There IS actually a Constitutional question about whether the Federal Government can purchase State land.
    It's pretty murky on both sides.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Bundy is not a freedom fighter, a patriotic supporter of the second amendment, a victim in a struggle with a tyrannical government, or anything like that. He is simply a deadbeat being evicted from land he has been using without paying for it, no different from any tenant who hasn't been paying the rent.

    Let's not make him out to be a hero.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Given Eric Holder's claim to possess broad Law enforcement discretion, I just keep wondering why the DOJ needed to make damn sure to enforce THIS Law against THIS guy.
    Can anyone suggest an answer?
    Because he's stealing. His actions are equivalent to theft of service. Others pay for the use of government land, why is it okay for this guy to commit theft?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I find it amazing, but not surprising, how the sycophants and toadies of tyrannical government will always blame the victims of government violence and never the government itself. I'm sure there were similar types who considered the militiamen at Lexington and Concord to be nut jobs who needed to be placed back underneath the bottom of the barrel from which they crawled. Such government bootlickers consider anyone who stands up with force to government tyranny to be nut jobs.
    No tyranny here ...just a deadbeat anarchist asshole who refuses to recognize the existence of your government. He has been getting rich leaching off your tax dollars for the last 20 years. Why do you defend such a greedy asshole?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    It's rather odd that Al Sharpton can owe the feds $2.6 million for years, have meetings with Obama, and continue to roll without the nuisance of armed federal officers confronting his failure to pay while this guy, Bundy, gets the full treatment. Odd.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Because he's stealing. His actions are equivalent to theft of service. Others pay for the use of government land, why is it okay for this guy to commit theft?
    Not the question I asked ... is this offense worse than the others Holder has chosen not to enforce?

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