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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Libertarianism in terms of politics emphasizes minimum govt. How is this minimum govt?
    Minimum government and no government are two different things.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the federal govt wasn't allowed to purchase land, then Bundy would be living in Mexico.
    Individuals can purchase land, own land, control land. Those are natural rights, which govt doesnt have.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm as much of an owner of the land in question as the rancher is. We've collectively given the BLM the responsibility of administering the property.

    and I don't want my land being used by a deadbeat who thinks he has all the property rights and I have none.
    WE didnt. They simply passed a law saying it was so. Illegaly.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    Minimum government and no government are two different things.
    And how is a federal bureaucracy which controls 90% of a state, makes arbitrary laws governing it, and does so without explicit permisison from the people 'minimal govt?'

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    WE didnt. They simply passed a law saying it was so. Illegaly.

    I don't think you understand the word Illegaly(sic)
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    What justifies Bundy not paying to graze his cattle on land he does not own?

    Why would anyone defend such selfish actions?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Individuals can purchase land, own land, control land. Those are natural rights, which govt doesnt have.
    non-sequitor noted
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What justifies Bundy not paying to graze his cattle on land he does not own?

    Why would anyone defend such selfish actions?
    Squatter's rights?

    His family has been there since the 1800's, maybe he feels he's entitled to land he does not own? Sounds kind of liburul I know, but that might be what's going on in his mind.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Squatter's rights?

    His family has been there since the 1800's, maybe he feels he's entitled to land he does not own? Sounds kind of liburul I know, but that might be what's going on in his mind.
    Squatter's rights apply to property that has been abandoned by its' owner. The feds have obviously not abandoned this property, as demonstrated by it's activities
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Squatter's rights apply to property that has been abandoned by its' owner. The feds have obviously not abandoned this property, as demonstrated by it's activities
    Nor has Bundy abandoned his grazing rights, he just refuses to pay because he thinks he's in the right.

    I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop now. He's served with a summons to appear in federal court, (he probably already knows what he owes - government invoices) and if he doesn't appear, a warrant issued for failure to appear, feds go to his ranch, and attempt to arrest him, another Waco or Ruby Ridge could be on the horizon.

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