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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Now we know why the Feds feel the need to be equipped like the 2nd Armored Division.
    I missed the Abram/Bradley assault teams... got a pic?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Go look how much of Nevada the federal government controls, then get back to me.

    291 - Federal Lands in the US | Strange Maps | Big Think
    Convert that map to it's grazing capacity, rainfall, and climax use and get back to me.

    It takes roughly 20 acres to support one cow. Multiply that by 900 head- more for the calves raised until 6 months old... Bundy is illegally using 26,000 acres.

    Or more likely severely overgrazing a lesser amount. Problem with overgrazing is it permanently alters the flora that is very expensive to correct.

    Here in Oklahoma, a land not noted for bountiful rainfall, we call places like Nevada's range land- "God's County", because NO ONE is willing to pay for that about worthless land. Face the facts, Bundy's family has a century to buy it, Bundy himself refused to pay the ridiculously low stipend to use the land he wants OTHERS to fight the Government for...

    He calls it 'His Land' but he won't even pay the dirt cheap grazing fee....

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Actually in the same article that I linked BLM offered to give Bundy some money from the auction.
    Actually, that is not the case....

    "BUNKERVILLE, Nevada (Reuters) - U.S. officials ended a stand-off with hundreds of armed protesters in the Nevada desert on Saturday, calling off the government's roundup of cattle it said were illegally grazing on federal land and giving about 300 animals back to the rancher who owned them."

    http://www.newsweek.com/us-officials...n-bundy-246038

    ANd anything that Bundy put on public property was a gift from him to us.
    Well, that's not true....I suspect that the resolution of damaged property will be determined by the courts...If I were him, I'd argue that the equipment and fencing that they destroyed was worth $1 million dollars...

    Bundy gave away his cattle when he decided for personal reasons that he would no longer pay grazing fees to the BLM.
    Bull ****. Unless you believe that the government is all powerful, and has the right to just declare themselves masters of the land, and you now need pay them protection like the mob, then you AND the several liberal judges he has lost in court with are just wrong....People won't stand for this type of totalitarian authoritarianism.

    But he was stupid enough to believe that trying to pay the State and county grazing fees were going to save his stupid ass.
    The state is whom this family has dealt with for over a hundred and fifty years, since the early to mid 1800s on this land. Now all the sudden because some granola munching, bleeding heart is willing to be used as a useful idiot for Harry Reid and his corrupt money making scheme on the land he gets to kick this farmer out, destroy his stuff, and steal his cattle? And you agree with it? Ughhhhh, what have we come to in this country.

    The entire Bundy family seem a bit ignorant.
    They won. The government thugs backed down, and you didn't even get the resolution right in your opening statement of this post, so I wouldn't say they are they ones 'ignorant' here.

    I am hoping that they back their threats and use their guns to settle this, it would be very entertaining unless they actually hurt someone.
    What? Even this statement doesn't make sense...You want them to use their weapons, but you don't want anyone to get hurt?.....How is that possible, outside the early Hollywood 'B' movies that is?

    But we both know that wont happen and this just fade away after Bundy makes his sell out deal final.
    Nah, this won't fade away, it will in the News, but behind the scenes "enviro-Nazi's" and corrupt politicans like "Dirty" Harry Reid will continue to bully people like this when they want something...

    "But an official with an environmental group that had notified the government it would sue unless federal land managers sought to protect tortoises on the grazing allotment used by Bundy's cattle expressed outrage at the end of the cattle roundup."

    http://www.newsweek.com/us-officials...n-bundy-246038

    And fools like the Sierra club that I suspect is this "unnamed official" with the enviro group will continue to have an incestuous relationship with the EPA to bully citizens and strong arm them out of their rights....They aren't 'green', they're red....Communist red.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That is a thin thing to grasp at, Have you found any merit to the claims yet?
    Who's "grasping"? Jones's site was linked on Drudge, and I followed the link. But in answer to your question, the blogosphere is talking about it, and here's a link from NRO: Nevada Ranch Standoff Escalates, Questions about Reid Arise | National Review Online

    Meanwhile, were you serious when you posted that you hoped guns would be used against citizens and that this would be "entertaining"?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Very impolite to form a quote to make it appear to be the words written by an opponent or in other words you are not only making up facts, you also in this instance appear to be denying your own words.
    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Your post should be in the "conspiracy" forum because it is really out there.

    Dry Lake Solar plant is in California and Rory Reid has no connection to it. The Center for Land Use Interpretation[/qoute](sic)

    Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone.. see those words.. big difference. So lets get that fact correct.
    Here's my original quote
    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Your post should be in the "conspiracy" forum because it is really out there.

    Dry Lake Solar plant is in California and Rory Reid has no connection to it. The Center for Land Use Interpretation

    The Chinese deal that Rory Reid actually was involved in was canceled last year. Company dumps big Laughlin solar project, says market won

    Clark County purchased the grazing rights from the BLM in 1998 and removed the land covered from the local allotment of grazing lands Roundup of Trespassing Cattle Begins in Nevada Desert


    You may have "a lot more of corruption going on" but so far you are batting 0.000
    Here's the post I was responding to Originally Posted by austrianecon I have bolded the parts which austrianecon is apparently ignoring
    It's not a conspiracy theory and I never said it was in Gold Butte specifically but BLM lands used by Ranchers in northen Nevada. I actually have facts on my side and I got more for you.

    You've heard of Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone, right? Gold Butte is gonna be used as "Preserve" (mitigation) to off set the land damage to build the Dry Lake Solar plant which was involves a guy named Rory Reid, you know Harry Reid's son. Father and Son were behind that deal.

    The BLM claim is Bundy hasn't paid any fees. But Clark County who has grazing rights leases for that land with him that pre-date BLM is being paid by Mr. Bundy.

    This is a political fight between Harry Reid and his cohorts against a rancher who doesn't want to kowtow to a $5 billion solar plant.

    But don't let me embarrass you too much. I got a lot more of corruption going on here.
    Now let the readers decide
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I missed the Abram/Bradley assault teams... got a pic?
    Ever hear of hyperbole?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ever hear of hyperbole?
    Sure have, and was just pointing how hyper your bole is, yet again....

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh BS.

    Then why the false narrative about the "endangered" desert tortoise ?

    Why would the FED need to use the narrative about some poor tutles if the BLMs rights over all public land were absolute ?


    You people need ro remember what happened the last time the Fed armied up to against American citizens.

    WACO happened.
    WACO was not about refusing to pay for the use of public lands and then being evicted from them. What would happen if you refused to pay your rent/mortgage? Another WACO?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    WACO was not about refusing to pay for the use of public lands and then being evicted from them. What would happen if you refused to pay your rent/mortgage? Another WACO?
    So you think that the Federal government is the owner of the United States, and we are just the tenants....Nice.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you think that the Federal government is the owner of the United States, and we are just the tenants....Nice.
    Ummm.. sure, that's what I said, sure.

    No, come to think of it, that isn't it at all. Take another look at what I actually did say.
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