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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Are you trying to get this thread moved to the conspiracy forum on purpose?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    They either used the yoda translator or they worship yoda.


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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Are you trying to get this thread moved to the conspiracy forum on purpose?
    No. This may surprise you, but I'm sincerely curious whether Jones's claim has any validity.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I know, the atrocities. Many children were fed, schools opened, homeless sheltered by these actions.
    As many children were fed before these actions. And as many homeless housed

    Of course now thanx to government actions poverty increases which means even more need to be fed and sheltered.

    YEs the federal government builds and opens more schools. Of course the student population is shrinking and education declines. Great example of government incompetance.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    This has nothing to do with the topic.

    I have no problem in supporting personal peoples rights. the difference is that this guy is thwarting or trying to thwart the law.
    I also do not support the government putting in a national guard defense near this guys house.

    so there is some give and take.
    This is a problem that could be dealt with without the use of helicopters, armed men, etc., and the first excuse, I understand, was to protect turtles.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    As many children were fed before these actions. And as many homeless housed

    Of course now thanx to government actions poverty increases which means even more need to be fed and sheltered.

    YEs the federal government builds and opens more schools. Of course the student population is shrinking and education declines. Great example of government incompetance.
    The price of beef is also going up.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No. This may surprise you, but I'm sincerely curious whether Jones's claim has any validity.
    That is a thin thing to grasp at, Have you found any merit to the claims yet?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is a problem that could be dealt with without the use of helicopters, armed men, etc., and the first excuse, I understand, was to protect turtles.
    The government doesn't send hundreds of armed men to protect turtles. The government sends armed men to protect energy interests on this land, and that is what this is probably about.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is a problem that could be dealt with without the use of helicopters, armed men, etc., and the first excuse, I understand, was to protect turtles.
    How is that. That rancher self exempted himself from paying fees (surprised?) and continued to use land that is not his years for years. He ignored three or four court orders from diferent judges (harder for him to claim bias) telling him he was wrong. Hundreds of armed sympathizers come to the area to support him. And the federal government is supposed to send the Peace Corps to enforce the law?

    I am not a big fan of over zealous applications of endangered species laws, and I think the rancher's (third generation) grazing privelages - not rights, in the area should be grand fathered - or the ban on cattle in the area dropped in its entirety. But, despite what he and his anarchist supporters claim, he needs to pay the fees.

    This guy needs to join the Occupiers. They both have alot in common in that they think they can self exempt themselves from paying for things they choose to purchase and then threaten violence if their self exemption is not recognized. Heck , both of them also claim some kind of mystical "right" to things they have not purchased.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Hang the feds............Waco /Ruby Ridge
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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