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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    None of what you posted here states the BLM was on the range before the militia arrived. Note the wording in bold, PLAN and PREPARING.

    I'm a progressive?
    Ok, read down a little then....

    "April 5, 2014: After decades of trepidation, federal officials and cowboys start rounding up what they think are Cliven Bundy's hundreds of cows.

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    April 10, 2014: A protest camp has formed. There is a sign at the entrance that reads, "MILITA SIGHN IN."

    April 5th still before April 10th....No?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, read down a little then....

    "April 5, 2014: After decades of trepidation, federal officials and cowboys start rounding up what they think are Cliven Bundy's hundreds of cows.

    snip

    April 10, 2014: A protest camp has formed. There is a sign at the entrance that reads, "MILITA SIGHN IN."

    April 5th still before April 10th....No?
    It's a good thing they came prepared, isn't it?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a good thing they came prepared, isn't it?
    They looked like idiots.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They looked like idiots.
    Better to look like an idiot than to be caught unprepared for the worst. They didn't turn out to bve idiots, now did they?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Better to look like an idiot than to be caught unprepared for the worst. They didn't turn out to bve idiots, now did they?
    Yeah, kind of....They didn't accomplish anything but make themselves look foolish, and embolden the ranchers in the west....
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then why post it in a manner implying that it was?
    I didn't. I only said that was a likely reason why things happened the way it happened.

    Yes, I agree...Prepared....I support LE being prepared...And I don't know what intel that they may have had, or didn't...But, the way they proceeded was a public relations nightmare....And if you don't see that then there isn't much we have to discuss.
    Perhaps. Or perhaps we just have a public 9or a segment of the public) too willing to leap to conclusions. I'm not sure I can answer that currently. But reading the time line, the law breaker has been treated more than fairly.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't. I only said that was a likely reason why things happened the way it happened.



    Perhaps. Or perhaps we just have a public 9or a segment of the public) too willing to leap to conclusions. I'm not sure I can answer that currently. But reading the time line, the law breaker has been treated more than fairly.
    You know there are more ways to look at things rather than the way you do right?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You know there are more ways to look at things rather than the way you do right?
    Of course there is, but there is also such a thing as an unfair way to look at things. Objectively, there was reason to both come and come in force. Bundy was breaking the law. There had been episodes of violence. So tell me why the guy breaking the law deserves support, so we can defend others who violates laws.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, kind of....They didn't accomplish anything but make themselves look foolish, and embolden the ranchers in the west....
    and get the freeloader off of the land without firing a shot.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, read down a little then....

    "April 5, 2014: After decades of trepidation, federal officials and cowboys start rounding up what they think are Cliven Bundy's hundreds of cows.

    snip

    April 10, 2014: A protest camp has formed. There is a sign at the entrance that reads, "MILITA SIGHN IN."

    April 5th still before April 10th....No?
    Hi j-mac

    Well, let's agree on at least one thing here, that it's not clear who showed up first, the militias or the BLM. But, I will concede that the BLM was already in the area where Bundy's cattle might have been gathered. But those may or may not have been the BLM LE people, they might have been ordinary cowboys (the BLM has cowboys you know) trying to round up some.

    It's kinda like, well, which came first, the chicken, or the egg.

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