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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It wasn't that the feds came in, more in the manner they did.
    Should they have permitted his criminal act to continue for another twenty years?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Of course. Why didn't I think of that? I'm sure that his militia would have quietly stood by while that happened, sure.
    From what I've seen of the time line, the feds were there at least 10 days before any militia.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You quietly arrest the man, you don't come in with a small army.
    In an area which they had some pipe bomb attacks about a decade ago, they find signs that are chainsawed in half or shot up, and won't allow staff to go out unless they are with someone else. Oh and a guy who threatened he'll take action against anyone who tries to round-up his cattle, when they had a plan in 2012 the got canceled after numerous threats, the guy sends a letter to the sheriff notifying of a range war and his virtual army, oh and that guy had advanced notice the BLM was coming. In that case they should just bring a couple people?

    I thought the number of people they brought was too much at first, a show of force but too much. Knowing more of the history makes it seem a hell of a lot more sensible.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by coyotedelmar View Post
    In an area which they had some pipe bomb attacks about a decade ago, they find signs that are chainsawed in half or shot up, and won't allow staff to go out unless they are with someone else. Oh and a guy who threatened he'll take action against anyone who tries to round-up his cattle, when they had a plan in 2012 the got canceled after numerous threats, the guy sends a letter to the sheriff notifying of a range war and his virtual army, oh and that guy had advanced notice the BLM was coming. In that case they should just bring a couple people?

    I thought the number of people they brought was too much at first, a show of force but too much. Knowing more of the history makes it seem a hell of a lot more sensible.
    Exactly, and a repeat of history is probably what they were trying to avoid. A lot of people kept saying the BLM had an army but all I saw was about twenty rangers and a swat team. Some army. Bundy claimed the BLM back down as his victory. I wonder if he's changed his tune since FoxNews and the public and even right wing politicians have turned their back on him?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Exactly, and a repeat of history is probably what they were trying to avoid. A lot of people kept saying the BLM had an army but all I saw was about twenty rangers and a swat team. Some army. Bundy claimed the BLM back down as his victory. I wonder if he's changed his tune since FoxNews and the public and even right wing politicians have turned their back on him?
    I doubt it. He is probably going to the local Women's club searching for reinforcements.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Should they have permitted his criminal act to continue for another twenty years?
    IMO, absolutely not. If we do not pay or rent, lease or mortgage, it takes little time, usually no more than a year in mortgage situations to evict. They (federal government) should have done something about it way, way before it festered into a boil. Who knows why they waited so long to do anything about it.

    Now, some militia groups are setting up checkpoints and stopping people and asking them questions, and there have been death threats recently aimed at Harry Reid. These militia groups are about out of control, and the local sheriff around there isn't doing anything about it, if he can't do his job, he needs to be removed.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Exactly, and a repeat of history is probably what they were trying to avoid. A lot of people kept saying the BLM had an army but all I saw was about twenty rangers and a swat team. Some army. Bundy claimed the BLM back down as his victory. I wonder if he's changed his tune since FoxNews and the public and even right wing politicians have turned their back on him?
    I doubt it, he is one ignorant, stubborn bastard deadbeat. Prison time might change the way he perceives things.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    From what I've seen of the time line, the feds were there at least 10 days before any militia.
    Not. The militia was there way before the feds arrived.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Of course. Why didn't I think of that? I'm sure that his militia would have quietly stood by while that happened, sure.
    Militia wasn't there until the feds showed up in mass. Just like with Randy weaver they could have quickly and quietly arrested him any day at the local feed store parking lot.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Exactly, and a repeat of history is probably what they were trying to avoid. A lot of people kept saying the BLM had an army but all I saw was about twenty rangers and a swat team. Some army. Bundy claimed the BLM back down as his victory. I wonder if he's changed his tune since FoxNews and the public and even right wing politicians have turned their back on him?
    Feds were repeating history. It was Ruby ridge all over again.

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