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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I asked why YOU suddenly feel this way, not others, nice deflection...

    You must have not been looking too hard to have missed the CON shrieking over the OWS protests... head in sand much???

    Actually the big OWS sit in was in a private park the CONs wanted to be shut down, not public lands. Zuccotti Park

    Cows don't just occupy, they consume and trample- the OWS folks would have had to take office equipment, food, and destroy private property to be the equiv.
    Strange talk from a guy that claims to be a rancher.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I asked why YOU suddenly feel this way, not others, nice deflection...

    You must have not been looking too hard to have missed the CON shrieking over the OWS protests... head in sand much???

    Actually the big OWS sit in was in a private park the CONs wanted to be shut down, not public lands. Zuccotti Park

    Cows don't just occupy, they consume and trample- the OWS folks would have had to take office equipment, food, and destroy private property to be the equiv.
    Who has their head in the sand? You deflect away from every other OWS "event" by saying to look only at Zucotti Park (publically accessable private land). OWS "events" clearly damaged both public and private property.

    LA faces millions in costs for Occupy damage « Hot Air

    Yet this is how much of the MSM seemed to view the OWS destruction and disruption:

    Occupy Wall Street and the Future of Urban Public Space | City Parks Blog
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Strange talk from a guy that claims to be a rancher.
    A rancher who obeys the laws, and doesn't post he hides money he earns from the IRS...

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Who has their head in the sand? You deflect away from every other OWS "event" by saying to look only at Zucotti Park (publically accessable private land). OWS "events" clearly damaged both public and private property.

    LA faces millions in costs for Occupy damage « Hot Air

    Yet this is how much of the MSM seemed to view the OWS destruction and disruption:

    Occupy Wall Street and the Future of Urban Public Space | City Parks Blog
    So there was CON outrage??? Imagine that... but I'd like the contract that pays $400,000 for the lawn and $700,000 for the cops???? but Hot Air (gotta love that name) says MILLIONS but I don't see how unless everyone inflated their expenses to fleece the Taxpayer.

    FYI a blog isn't MSM so keep looking. try Faux Noise. Now did OWS continue to destroy public property for 20 years, have armed men appear talking about a human shield of women?

    But you deflect--- Did you decry the OWS crowd being pushed around by the law over everything from bullhorns to generators????

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So there was CON outrage??? Imagine that... but I'd like the contract that pays $400,000 for the lawn and $700,000 for the cops???? but Hot Air (gotta love that name) says MILLIONS but I don't see how unless everyone inflated their expenses to fleece the Taxpayer.

    FYI a blog isn't MSM so keep looking. try Faux Noise. Now did OWS continue to destroy public property for 20 years, have armed men appear talking about a human shield of women?

    But you deflect--- Did you decry the OWS crowd being pushed around by the law over everything from bullhorns to generators????
    I do not decry law enforcement enforcing the law in either case. What I decry is very selective enforcement based on the political leanings of those violating the law. I maintain that 12 million illegal aliens do far more damage than a herd of cattle. Why is Obama not explaining that the cattle were innocent pawns that were brought to (or born on) the land and thus deserve legal status and a path to grazing rights?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    A rancher who obeys the laws, and doesn't post he hides money he earns from the IRS...
    Just seems like you have a negative opinion of cows for a guy that claims to be a rancher.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I do not decry law enforcement enforcing the law in either case. What I decry is very selective enforcement based on the political leanings of those violating the law. I maintain that 12 million illegal aliens do far more damage than a herd of cattle. Why is Obama not explaining that the cattle were innocent pawns that were brought to (or born on) the land and thus deserve legal status and a path to grazing rights?
    You are making excuses and you know it. Hell, you could say that about just any law that gets broke. "Oh damn, I robbed a bank so I could feed my kids, why was I arrested when we have 12 million illegal aliens here?".

    It's kinda like the speeder that gets mad because HE was caught when others were also breaking the law. It doesn't excuse one bit that the person broke the law.

    Fact is, he broke the law and he was an EASY target to enforce the law on. Just like a speeder gets caught, he finally got caught. When you are going to boast that you break the law publicly, you shouldn't be suprised when the cops come knocking.

    I still don't think the feds were right in the amount of force they used, but it doesn't excuse Bundy's actions one bit.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You are making excuses and you know it. Hell, you could say that about just any law that gets broke. "Oh damn, I robbed a bank so I could feed my kids, why was I arrested when we have 12 million illegal aliens here?".

    It's kinda like the speeder that gets mad because HE was caught when others were also breaking the law. It doesn't excuse one bit that the person broke the law.

    Fact is, he broke the law and he was an EASY target to enforce the law on. Just like a speeder gets caught, he finally got caught. When you are going to boast that you break the law publicly, you shouldn't be suprised when the cops come knocking.

    I still don't think the feds were right in the amount of force they used, but it doesn't excuse Bundy's actions one bit.
    Read the post, to which you replied, again. Did I ever say, or imply, that Bundy should not be prevented from free grazing? Whether you break the law "publicly" should not be the criteria at all. The Bureau of Land Mismanagement, with an annual budget of over $1 billion, should not require 20 years to notice that a herd of cattle are present. I am not excusing Bundy's actions in the least, I am pointing out an extreme double standard in federal law enforcement.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I do not decry law enforcement enforcing the law in either case. What I decry is very selective enforcement based on the political leanings of those violating the law. I maintain that 12 million illegal aliens do far more damage than a herd of cattle. Why is Obama not explaining that the cattle were innocent pawns that were brought to (or born on) the land and thus deserve legal status and a path to grazing rights?
    CON crap... using your silly dodge then no other laws should be enforced as long as illegal drugs still are manufactured in this country.

    The BLM doesn't enforce immigration, it protects of public lands... where does anyone's 'political leanings' figure into a lying, deadbeat man defying the law for decades- if anything he has gotten a pass other ranchers have not!

    Now did the President order the BLM to end the decades of lawbreaking Bundy engaged in? Why do CONs insist on dragging crap into the discussion????

    But typical CON deflection... Bundy's cattle are still free to graze, just not the protected area- and for that matter neither are the 'innocent pawn' children of illegal immigrants...

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Just seems like you have a negative opinion of cows for a guy that claims to be a rancher.
    You taking to libations this early today?

    Where do I have a negative opinion of cattle? I have a negative opinion of a lying, deadbeat, rancher who expects something for nothing because of a series of lies he tells about his lineage.

    Cattle are capable of great damage to fragile ecosystems- the SW has had irreparable damage done by over grazing of cattle. That isn't the cow's fault but the greedy bastard running them....

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