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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Bundy is a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement which is closely aligned with domestic terrorism. Terry Nichols and the Oklahoma city bombing are a prime example of this group acting against the United States. There are many other smaller incidents. The Sovereign Citizen's movement is an offshoot of the Posse Comitatus movement which like Al Qaeda was founded on hatred and intolerance. The death toll from this movement may not be as high as Al Qaeda, but it's certainly in the hundreds.

    They're not the same, but it's silly to discount the similarities.
    IMO, Bundy is on dangerous ground asking for militias to help him fight the government, he should have hired a prominent attorney or several to present his case.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    IMO, Bundy is on dangerous ground asking for militias to help him fight the government, he should have hired a prominent attorney or several to present his case.
    my understanding is he had to represent himself in the prior litigation because no lawyer was willing to be embarrassed as the attorney of record in a certain losing situation. after all, he had no sound argument and had to make one up. one almost as 'good' as asking if negroes would not be better off as slaves
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Good point.
    Best just to round up the cattle, sell them to pay unpaid bills, then go home and let Bundy and his "militia" stew in their own juices.
    That's what they were doing and then the right wingers freaked the **** out.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my understanding is he had to represent himself in the prior litigation because no lawyer was willing to be embarrassed as the attorney of record in a certain losing situation. after all, he had no sound argument and had to make one up. one almost as 'good' as asking if negroes would not be better off as slaves
    Well, considering his demonstrated lack of prowess in holding a press conference, is it any wonder?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    IMO, Bundy is on dangerous ground asking for militias to help him fight the government, he should have hired a prominent attorney or several to present his case.
    the loony militias and Bundy are a perfect fit. Both are racist, and both deny the legitimacy of the Federal Government. A marriage made in Hell.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my understanding is he had to represent himself in the prior litigation because no lawyer was willing to be embarrassed as the attorney of record in a certain losing situation. after all, he had no sound argument and had to make one up. one almost as 'good' as asking if negroes would not be better off as slaves
    One should never represent oneself in a court of law, unless it's for minor traffic violations. Prosecutors usually have field days with defendants representing themselves.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Well, considering his demonstrated lack of prowess in holding a press conference, is it any wonder?
    Yepper, he shoulda' had an attorney as a spokesperson for him. Giving an idiot an open microphone is extremely stupid. We must wonder what his level of education was? Third grade?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you're right that reg's should have been complied with in the 90s, but to wait 20 years then respond with such a display of force is stupid unless you as the government are trying to show the public that it is now under authoritarian rule. There were less heavy handed ways to proceed and save face. But progressives hate the military approach unless they can use it against their political opposition.
    Bundy threatening a "range war" and calling in his 'sovereign citizen' buddies and threatening violence is heavy handed, too. The BLM was simply trying to round up cows that were illegally on federal lands, which they had every right to do. They also had a right to protect themselves from Bundy and his extremist pals.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Bundy threatening a "range war" and calling in his 'sovereign citizen' buddies and threatening violence is heavy handed, too. The BLM was simply trying to round up cows that were illegally on federal lands, which they had every right to do. They also had a right to protect themselves from Bundy and his extremist pals.
    And Bundy with his supporters thought they won, isn't that a hoot?

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