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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Hannidy said it right on his radio show today. Whether Bundy is right or wrong about wanting to graze his land on public land, the government was wrong by going after him the way they did. They should've first put a lien out on his land and cattle before bringing in the guns.
    Federal officers brought weapons because they were told of the armed Bundy militia. You're citing half of the truth.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Federal officers brought weapons because they were told of the armed Bundy militia. You're citing half of the truth.
    Which is typical of Hannity as well.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which is typical of Hannity as well.
    Right now, well, maybe not anymore, they're on spin cycle.

    I sure wished I had cable or satellite television, I'd like to see O'Really spin it.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Sigh, it is not Bundy's garage, so there is no extortion. Noow, Bundy does own 180 acres of land, but he does not want to keep his property on his land.

    Lets do an experiment:

    -Don't pay your parking meter fees for severl years
    -Claim that you own the streets due to your special ancestory
    -Tell the local police that:
    A. You will continue to park on local streets
    B. You will never pay the parking fee
    C. You will do whatever it takes to defend your property.
    - The, get lots of blind followers juiced up

    I bet the people that tow your car are going to be armed (shocker)
    Ok, he does not own that extra land, but the family DID own the rights to graze on that land. It's his contention that he was paying the state grazing fees, when that land was made federal, which voids the contract.

    since analogy is a word people don't seem to grasp... Let's say he owned the MINERAL RIGHT on that land, he could open a mine to pull those minerals out of the land even though he did not own the actual land.

    Now, add to your experiment... that you own the lot in question and the government adds the meter to the lot and claims you owe for the usage, and your experiment ensues...

    Then you would be within your rights to refuse to pay...

    Whatever, I'm convinced, we should allow these land grabs so that corrupt politicians can profit.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Reminds me of Shay's Rebellion...which was the inspiration for creating a strong federal government that could enforce the laws. History shows that the founding fathers would not have put up with Mr. Bundy and would have cut him down without hesitation.
    Or the Whiskey Rebellion. George Washington was leading the charge to quell that one.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Cliven Bundy on the the "Negro":

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
    Here's the story from the Christian Science Monitor:

    There you go. There's your folk hero standing up to the big bad federal government, you know, the freedom fighter who has been compared to the revolutionaries of '76.

    What a guy. What a role model for the RWENJ!
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Federal officers brought weapons because they were told of the armed Bundy militia. You're citing half of the truth.
    BLM kidnapped Bundy's cattle first.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ok, he does not own that extra land, but the family DID own the rights to graze on that land. It's his contention that he was paying the state grazing fees, when that land was made federal, which voids the contract.

    since analogy is a word people don't seem to grasp... Let's say he owned the MINERAL RIGHT on that land, he could open a mine to pull those minerals out of the land even though he did not own the actual land.

    Now, add to your experiment... that you own the lot in question and the government adds the meter to the lot and claims you owe for the usage, and your experiment ensues...

    Then you would be within your rights to refuse to pay...

    Whatever, I'm convinced, we should allow these land grabs so that corrupt politicians can profit.
    Actually I think he paid grazing fee's to the federal govenment not the state government. And for some reason the Federal government started buying those permits back, effectively elliminating them. Instead of selling his back to the feds he stopped his payments completely. And I believe the reason the Fed started to buy the permits back is because Reid's son wanted the property for a Chinese solar electricity plant? Although they claim it's because of an endangered turtle.

    Again the Fed shouldn't own all this land. It should be deeded over to the States for individual disbursement. Even if they charge more for grazing fee's.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Or the Whiskey Rebellion. George Washington was leading the charge to quell that one.
    That too. Insurrection was one of the biggest fears of property owners..er...uh founding fathers during that time.

    But Bundy isn't complaining about property rights....he's complaining about not getting grazing rights on public land for free. That more than qualifies him as a Reaganesque welfare queen extraordinaire.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Cliven Bundy on the the "Negro":



    Here's the story from the Christian Science Monitor:

    There you go. There's your folk hero standing up to the big bad federal government, you know, the freedom fighter who has been compared to the revolutionaries of '76.

    What a guy. What a role model for the RWENJ!
    As I stated in the other thread. I no longer support him, nor the government actions on him.
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