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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    This was common grazing ground, and used by the man's family since 1870. In 1946, the BLM was formed. I hope the feds turn out looking horrible after this.
    why?

    Are you for anyone grazing on public lands? I wonder how the rancher would react if someone else ran some cattle in the same area. It is after all "public lands".

    Personally. A rancher who has failed to pay the grazing fees for many, many years, is ripping off all of us.

    Would you feel the same if the land was State of Nevada land? States also charge fees to graze.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    why?

    Are you for anyone grazing on public lands? I wonder how the rancher would react if someone else ran some cattle in the same area. It is after all "public lands".

    Personally. A rancher who has failed to pay the grazing fees for many, many years, is ripping off all of us.
    Some people are just blinded to the reality that freedom isn't free. The had all those generations and decades to purchase the land and chose not to do so.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    Read the post with the edits.
    Ok.

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    No, I never put forward any position on the topic of watching child porn.

    Maybe you should read the definition of the word mandate to see how you are factually incorrect.

    Mandate: an official order or commission to do something.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    why?

    Are you for anyone grazing on public lands? I wonder how the rancher would react if someone else ran some cattle in the same area. It is after all "public lands".

    Personally. A rancher who has failed to pay the grazing fees for many, many years, is ripping off all of us.

    Would you feel the same if the land was State of Nevada land? States also charge fees to graze.
    It's kind of silly to defend the fed here considering they stole the land in question.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    why?

    Are you for anyone grazing on public lands? I wonder how the rancher would react if someone else ran some cattle in the same area. It is after all "public lands".

    Personally. A rancher who has failed to pay the grazing fees for many, many years, is ripping off all of us.

    Would you feel the same if the land was State of Nevada land? States also charge fees to graze.
    I'm kind of curious how the rancher ripped anyone off.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's kind of silly to defend the fed here considering they stole the land in question.
    no source to your statement.

    Stole from who?

    I will try again. Is it your stance that anyone should be able to graze on the land in question? Is it your position that the State or the Feds should not collect any grazing fees for the rancher grazing cattle on that land?

    How about minerals. Could someone just go out and start mining on that land?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm kind of curious how the rancher ripped anyone off.
    Try answering my questions.

    So is it your stance than anyone can go out and cut down a forest for lumber?
    The rip off is the rancher is getting free feed for his cattle. How about someone else running a herd of cattle on the same land? Why couldn't the other person get free use of the same land?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok.



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    Maybe you should read the definition of the word mandate to see how you are factually incorrect.



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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Well unfortunately there is no time travel and we can't go back and give the land to the state for it belongs to the F gov. That's just the reality of it, and one that this rancher wants to ignore, but can't. 200 people, BTW isn't all that many to round up a heard spread over 600,000 acres. They had to increase their size due to the rancher wanting a wet dream range war, and plenty of libertarian govt haters are rushing to his aid.


    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Don't take my comments out of context. I was responding to a jerk who expects the rest of the country to pay for management of land that should belong to Nevada. How honest your federal people are out there irrelevant, I shouldn't be paying for your land management. It's your state, you pay for it. Sorry dude. And as far as that cattle rancher is concerned, that should be for a Nevada court to decide, and not the federal govt. So my statement still stands, the governor should tell the feds to leave or he'll run them off. 200 federals out there againt one rancher is ridiculous anyway.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Actually that's the state of Nevada's land and they are backing the rancher.
    Why are you making false statements to bolster your argument?
    In a statement released Monday, the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association also distanced itself from Bundy and his livestock, noting that it supports effective range management and cooperation among agencies to balance ranching and the conservation of wildlife.
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