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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Why is 85% of Nevada land owned by the Federal government? They should cede it over to the State Government so they can partial it out to private ownership.
    No. Especially not in Nevada, the government did quite a bit of weapons testing in that state.

    Here's a map depicting the percentage of land the government owns.

    Fed%u00252BOwned%u00252BLands%u00252BMap.jpg

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    No. Especially not in Nevada, the government did quite a bit of weapons testing in that state.

    Here's a map depicting the percentage of land the government owns.

    Fed%u00252BOwned%u00252BLands%u00252BMap.jpg
    Yep.. they did a lot of testing in the area Desert Tortoise lived. BLM is pretty stupid.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Yep.. they did a lot of testing in the area Desert Tortoise lived. BLM is pretty stupid.
    There are two headed horny toads in New Mexico near the White Sands testing Site.

    The turtle in Nevada that were subjected to testing in the test areas were toast.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    There are two headed horny toads in New Mexico near the White Sands testing Site.

    The turtle in Nevada that were subjected to testing in the test areas were toast.
    Yep, so you kinda get why I find the Fed's move ironic.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Yep, so you kinda get why I find the Fed's move ironic.
    Ironic in the sense that they're trying to collect from a deadbeat?

    Shouldn't humans take the lead in preserving what we have left here on earth. Call me a conservationist, I like to have logical conservation methods when at all possible.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No actually what really happened was that Cliven refused to pay for the grazing permit even though he could still be grazing on the same allotment today if he had complied with the permit fees and conditions. But he was making a political point and thing that he can just do whatever he wants outside of the law.
    I don't think we know what really happened, but I am fairly sure no conditions or fees would have allowed
    him to keep his cattle grazing on that allotment, as the BLM had designated that for strict conservation efforts.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No actually what really happened was that Cliven refused to pay for the grazing permit even though he could still be grazing on the same allotment today if he had complied with the permit fees and conditions. But he was making a political point and thing that he can just do whatever he wants outside of the law.
    my understanding is the elevation of protection for the endangered species caused BLM to buy existing grazing rights to eliminate further grazing on public lands in that designated area
    bundy refused to participate in that buy back
    he did not seek a grazing permit thereafter, knowing it would be declined due to the concerns about an endangered species
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Ironic in the sense that they're trying to collect from a deadbeat?

    Shouldn't humans take the lead in preserving what we have left here on earth. Call me a conservationist, I like to have logical conservation methods when at all possible.
    You can be a conservationist and not pay Government to be declared one. It's not like the land in question is experiencing a tragedy of the commons.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    You can be a conservationist and not pay Government to be declared one. It's not like the land in question is experiencing a tragedy of the commons.
    Where I've been, and where I go, I pick up after myself and others. I make attempts of being a good steward, and I pay fees when I must pay fees. Anything less would be unethical.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Where I've been, and where I go, I pick up after myself and others. I make attempts of being a good steward, and I pay fees when I must pay fees. Anything less would be unethical.
    and out public lands would be in better shape if everyone had the same ethics.

    Unfortunately, there are lots of yahoos who find it perfectly acceptable to trash public places.
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