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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    I'm not a fan of how the government manages itself or anything else. But I am a fan doing things under the rule of law. The rancher is just plain wrong. If there is a fee for grazing on federal land and he didn't pay it then there is consequence under the law. It doesn't matter who should own the land and it doesn't matter who pays for land management in Nevada. The man is in arrears with his grazing permit payments. He's a deadbeat. If he owed it to a bank, the bank would go to court to get restitution and the court would give it to the bank.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Exactly what is says. If the power isnt delegate to the US, then its the peoples. The govt doesnt have the power to control land in such a way, thus according to the 10th, the people DO.
    If I go by exactly what it says, you're wrong. Did you read the 10th amendment because I don't think you did... you seem to skip the part that doesn't align with your view.

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    The states, in this case, being the State of Nevada.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    I hope everyone in those militias wind up getting killed. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If I go by exactly what it says, you're wrong. Did you read the 10th amendment because I don't think you did... you seem to skip the part that doesn't align with your view.



    The states, in this case, being the State of Nevada.
    or to the people.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I hope everyone in those militias wind up getting killed. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
    Gotta say, my fellow libertarians arent sounding very libertarian in this thread. Where is the stalwart defense of individual liberty to live your life as you please without harming others, the beleif in the smallest govt possible? Instead youre siding with the Man seizing land and property, and then charging free people to access it, not to mention cheering on the govt in killing.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Gotta say, my fellow libertarians arent sounding very libertarian in this thread. Where is the stalwart defense of individual liberty to live your life as you please without harming others, the beleif in the smallest govt possible? Instead youre siding with the Man seizing land and property, and then charging free people to access it, not to mention cheering on the govt in killing.
    You're speaking about reinoe, which is the same guy that argued that no one is forced to buy health insurance because they can accept the penalty. He is about as libertarian as any run of the mill liberal is a libertarian.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Gotta say, my fellow libertarians arent sounding very libertarian in this thread. Where is the stalwart defense of individual liberty to live your life as you please without harming others, the beleif in the smallest govt possible? Instead youre siding with the Man seizing land and property, and then charging free people to access it, not to mention cheering on the govt in killing.
    I also believe in the rule of law. The fees in place are to prevent any idiotic tom, dick, and harry from running roughshod over the wilderness and to maintain the balance of the habitat. If he's not willing to pay the fees then he should accept that he's unwilling to heard his cattle in the area. He's already been getting a free ride for nearly 20 years. **** that asshole. He wants to eat his cake and have it too.

    He's harming others because he's harming the wilderness which I enjoy. Regardless of how you feel about the natural wildlife in the area, his herding is causing wildlife to be harmed. Live his life how he wants? **** that noise, sounds like petulant selfishness to me. Who's he paying to maintain the habitat? Nevada? The Feds? Oh he's not paying anyone.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're speaking about reinoe, which is the same guy that argued that no one is forced to buy health insurance because they can accept the penalty. He is about as libertarian as any run of the mill liberal is a libertarian.
    What was FACTUALLY INCORRECT about the statement I made? Did I agree that the situation was acceptable? No I did not and have also repeatedly stated that the mandate should have been ruled unconstitutional. Funny how you failed to mention that. And aren't you the guy who advocates that it's ok to watch pornagraphy of 8 year olds?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    What was FACTUALLY INCORRECT about the statement I made? Did I agree that the situation was acceptable? Get the **** outta here dude.
    Does the government ever impose on anyone according to you?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Does the government ever impose on anyone according to you?
    Read the post with the edits.
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