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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Not one Liberal group was targeted or not granted tax exempt status...NOT ONE....
    I realize it's not Brietbart or The Daily Caller, but for those that are interested in fact...

    The I.R.S. denied tax exemption to the groups — Emerge Nevada, Emerge Maine and Emerge Massachusetts — because, the agency wrote in denial letters, they were set up specifically to cultivate Democratic candidates.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/bu...med.html?_r=2&
    Another source on the same story...
    Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups
    “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham

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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    I realize it's not Brietbart or The Daily Caller, but for those that are interested in fact...



    Another source on the same story...
    Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups
    "at least three liberal groups". First, I'm sure it was accidental, second...the IRS admitted that they inappropriately target conservative groups!
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Donations to 501c4s

    Yes, you make a good point. However, you seem to have skipped over some important bits.
    Contributions to civic leagues or other section 501(c)(4) organizations generally are not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes. They may be deductible as trade or business expenses, if ordinary and necessary in the conduct of the taxpayer’s business. However, see Nondeductible Lobbying and Political Expenditures for more information. Also, the organization may be required to disclose that contributions are not deductible when it solicits contributions.

    Donations to volunteer fire companies are deductible as charitable contributions on the donor’s federal income tax return, but only if made for exclusively public purposes. Similarly, contributions to certain war veterans organizations are deductible. If the contributions are deductible as charitable contributions, substantiation and disclosure requirements may apply.

    So yes, donations to 501c4s can be deducted as a valid business expense IF they're ordinary and necessary in the conduct of that business, (you left that part out), AND if the donation is not used in any way to influence elections, participate in any political campaign, attempt to influence the public with respect to elections, legislative matters, or referendums, or support communication with covered executive branch officials in an attempt to influence actions or positions.

    So your point is noted; but it's not applicable to political groups acting as 501c4s.
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Being held in contempt and prosecuted would put her in jail. You're claiming that process is contrary to the constitution... Which part may I ask?
    this part; the fifth amendment, which you would violate for finding her in contempt for refusing to testify against herself:
    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
    [emphasis added by bubba for the reading impaired]
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    I realize it's not Brietbart or The Daily Caller, but for those that are interested in fact...



    Another source on the same story...
    Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups
    Denied...not stalled, indefinately, for political reasons. You're missing the whole point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this part; the fifth amendment, which you would violate for finding her in contempt for refusing to testify against herself:
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    When she said there waa nothing illegal going on, underoath, she committed perjury?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    but your not concerned about the IRS scandel......
    there is no irs scandal
    we have a reich wing which would want there to be
    but there is no scandal
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there is no irs scandal
    we have a reich wing which would want there to be
    but there is no scandal
    Really?

    Talk about willful blindness...

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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Really?

    Talk about willful blindness...
    not at all
    your side manufactures what it would want to see
    there is no actual irs scandal
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When she said there waa nothing illegal going on, underoath, she committed perjury?
    and yet there is nothing which evidences illegal behavior
    which means she could not have committed perjury
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak ~ Donald Trump 2013

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