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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Its the hypocrisy that pisses me off.. Republicans are allowed to disclose top secret infromation and put US operatives overseas at risk, but when a Dem does it then all hell breaks lose.

    And as for Benghazi ... more people have died under Bush at US diplomatic posts than at Benghazi, so tell me, why no mass investigations into that?
    We don't see you crying about Wikileaks much, though. Speaking of hypocrisy-n-all...
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    Re: Darrell Issa: Emails suggest Elijah Cummings prompted IRS targeting of True the V

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, let me get this straight...

    Of all the Conservative non-profit out there, Rep. Issa has pinged on one- True the Vote - and among all the digging he and his staff have done to date the only possible "link" he's dug up that connects an ex-IRS official to possible wrong doing are two lines in an email that read:



    That's it? That's the best Rep. Issa could do after months of investigative work and public hearings at the taxpayers' expense? Really?

    Don't get me wrong, on the surface the dialog clearly shows Lerner was looking into True the Vote, but does this in itself indicate something malicious or was it part of normal, routine business? For all we know that inquiry could have been a routine question asked about any non-profit applicant in the course of a typical workday. In this case, isn't it possible that: a) Lerner was inquiring about one of several other non-profits in that email or were they the only such non-profit organization mentioned?; or b) Lerner was following up on that status of an inquiry that involved True the Vote as part of normal, routine business. The point I'm trying to make here, folks, is unless we know more details as to the content of the email Rep. Issa claims to have uncovered, we really don't know if this particular email is the "smoking gun". From the sounds of it, this doesn't amount to much except Rep. Issa trying to claim "we got something!" which really doesn't appear to be much of anything in my book.

    Why are you ok with the IRS leaking confidential information to Congress membes, for political reasons?
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You know, the Democrats haven't changed a bit from what they were 20 years ago.

    The only difference is they're not trying to pretend they're something they're not under Obama.

    They're not trying to pretend they're decent, honest, American, troop loving people.

    The pretense is gone and they don't care if the Country perceives them as the dirt bags they are.

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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We don't see you crying about Wikileaks much, though. Speaking of hypocrisy-n-all...
    There is a difference between releasing classified information to harm political enemies as Issa has done, and outing government abuse like Wikileaks has done.

    As I said before, I dont know or care about the substance of what Issa is doing, because it is Issa. He might be right, but his is tainting the message by his very presence so that no one but the hardcorest anti-Obama freaks will believe him. Issa has been caught in using fake email's before, in manufactured evidence and so on, so why the hell should we believe him now?
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    We're getting off topic but on Sept 12, the day after the attack(s) in Benghazi while speaking in the Rose Garden, President Obama
    And, on Sept 15 before the UN he said:

    That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.
    Quite frankly, I'm kind of shocked you didn't bring up the 13 benghazis under Bush' meme.
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So Issa wants to eliminate the only person with the ability to call his witch hunt for what it is and the power to do anything about it. Interesting.
    OR to look at it a different way, the one person most vocally opposed to the investigation moving forward was complicit in the scandal.
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    And, on Sept 15 before the UN he said:



    Quite frankly, I'm kind of shocked you didn't bring up the 13 benghazis under Bush' meme.
    Please stop trying to derail this topic. Darrell Issa: Emails suggest Elijah Cummings prompted IRS targeting of True [W:130]
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Who LIED to cover up the reasons for the attack?
    Susan Rice, Hilary Clinton, President Obama for starters.
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post

    Please stop trying to derail this topic. Darrell Issa: Emails suggest Elijah Cummings prompted IRS targeting of True [W:130]
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    Re: Issa uncovers the smoking gun int he IRS targeting of conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So your fine with all this just going away because it suites your ideology ?

    You weigh the charge of corruption, even when it comes with proof by who it benefits politically ?

    Thats fine with me. It just proves we have a bigger problemon our hands than just a corrupt administration.
    That's a foolish statement. There has been no proof of any harm done, all the organizations got their exemption anyway. The biggest joke is they didn't even need to apply for them. The only "corruption" I see is the law itself. Political organizations should never be tax exempt. If Issa would do something about that I could have some respect for him. But all he does is continue his partisan witchhunt, the worst since McCarthy.
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