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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    While you are working out 'what happens', more children will die.

    Benign neglect benefits nobody except these killers, period.

    Your logic is painfully wrong.
    More guns = more people shooting. That's not a solution.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    More guns = more people shooting. That's not a solution.
    Wrong again.

    Having a gun does not require shooting unless necessary.

    When used, it is used intelligently, not randomly blasting away.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wrong again.

    Having a gun does not require shooting unless necessary.

    When used, it is used intelligently, not randomly blasting away.
    No, require is the wrong word. It's like more cars mean more accidents. It's kind of a math thing. Whether it is an acceptable risk is a different issue, but it is correct to say more means more.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, require is the wrong word. It's like more cars mean more accidents. It's kind of a math thing. Whether it is an acceptable risk is a different issue, but it is correct to say more means more.
    It is exactly correct.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    When used, it is used intelligently, not randomly blasting away.
    "it IS used intelligently..."?

    And how do you conclude that, that it IS? It might be/could theoretically be, in the right circumstances, in the right hands, with the right training. And the armed the teacher could put more people at risk, in the 99.999% of the time that there isn't a crazed shooter taking out children

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    None of my posts have been dishonest. Sarcastic, most definitely, but not dishonest. And it has nothing to do with some extreme agenda. It has to do with common sense. That common sense being that you cannot blame and ban an object from a group of people and expect the underlying problem to simply go away. Was Prohibition not evidence of this? Both of alcohol and drugs? Hell, the government can't even keep bombs away from those that are actually determined to have them. Timothy McVeigh and the Boston Bombers shold be enough evidence of that.
    Sounds as though you are arguing for the right to bear arm to include bombs. How about atomic bombs?

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Sounds as though you are arguing for the right to bear arm to include bombs. How about atomic bombs?
    The 2A is clear: militia weapons.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wrong again.

    Having a gun does not require shooting unless necessary.

    When used, it is used intelligently, not randomly blasting away.
    There is no correctly when discharging a fire arm around kids. Schools are doing good things. Most schools can lock down a classroom to protect kids. They encourage kids to warn school officials if someone has a gun on grounds. And that has happened. Guns won't fix this problem. I don't want my children going to school knowing their teacher has a gun. It is not the right or even a good solution.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't really understand this sentiment. They're not cops, and what makes a person a good police officer are not (generally) going to be what makes a fine teacher. Screening reliable teachers able to safely use a firearm in a panic situation difficult. Training them properly would be expensive and ongoing. They'd have to carry their weapons at all times in order to predictably affect an event like this, which means teachers in a classroom, of kids from 6 to 17 or 18, looking over homework, packing a Glock on their hip. Like guns or not, the presence of an unconcealed weapon in a room changes the dynamic entirely. There is the problem of 500,000 or a million teachers in the 130,000 schools securing the weapons and making sure that students cannot get access to them.
    What do you think millions of Americans with their concealed carry permits already do? Or are already prepared for? Or are committed to doing?

    I do not recommend that all teachers be armed but I certainly support the ones that wish to be...some of which already have cc permits and are not allowed to do so on campus...be allowed to do so.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I didn't say that. But the skills needed for a gun toting teacher to ward off an attack, or take down the attacker, in a crowded space full of innocent, panicked bystanders are advanced skills even for a police officer, that require significant training to learn and continuous training to maintain. .
    Who says? Do you have sources to back that up? How do you know what level of training is needed?

    When a bunch of kids are hiding behind their desks and a nutcase is going room to room...you think a trained teacher couldnt stop them as they came thru the door?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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