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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

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    Or perhaps you are just wrong.
    Then explain to me why there are people that want assisted suicide? Are you going to tell them that they are wrong also?
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If you think that's what a follower is then you don't know the meaning of the word. Or do you seriously think that no one that believes in things that you don't can't think on their own?

    As I said earlier, when the left stops using tragedies to advance thier anti-gun agenda's then I will stop doing so also. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
    You're a follower of Alinsky's theory. It's kind of like saying those who support universal healthcare are socialists even if they don't actually support socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're a follower of Alinsky's theory. It's kind of like saying those who support universal healthcare are socialists even if they don't actually support socialism.
    And what is Alinsky's theory? Please provide quote and link please.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And what is Alinsky's theory? Please provide quote and link please.
    Saul Alinsky

    "Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, "Okay, what would you do?"

    This rule of Alinsky’s was paraphrased by the Obama’s Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, "never let a good crisis go to waste." Obama has used the oil spill crisis as an excuse to spew green rhetoric and promote his cap-and-trade bill.
    Alinsky’s most useful tactic involves creating a good versus evil scenario. It is not about fixing the problem, it is about blaming someone -- in this case BP and their Chief Executive officer Tony Hayward. On June 12, Obama told British Prime Minister Cameron that BP would have to put $20 billion into an account to pay for "environmental and economic damages" caused from their spill. Less than a week later, Texas Rep. Joe Barton, of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, blasted Obama for forcing a private business to be the victim of a "$20 billion shakedown." Barton went on to say, "There is no question that BP is liable for the damages, but we have a due process system." Barton raises a good point but "due process" certainly would not have stopped Saul Alinsky and it will probably not stop Obama.
    You're an Alinskydrone if I've ever seen one. Your first reflex was to take advantage of the crisis.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Saul Alinsky

    You're an Alinskydrone if I've ever seen one. Your first reflex was to take advantage of the crisis.
    Might fit if I did it every single time. Unfortenately for you I rarely do so.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're a follower of Alinsky's theory. It's kind of like saying those who support universal healthcare are socialists even if they don't actually support socialism.
    A lot of people missed his point, he was pointing out what it looks like when someone jumps right out and makes a statement of that nature, it's a mimic technique. I see a lot of folks didn't like those statements, IOW, the point landed(I hope) with people who do make that statement when a politically charged issue goes straight to the gun control talking points. If I thought for a second that Kal was being serious with that statement I would be there with the people condemning it, as is I think people should take notice of the way it sounds when it comes from across the aisle to them.

    When issued seriously, it's a God awful thing to say. As I've named it "dancing on the graves", and is the height of disrespectful.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    A lot of people missed his point, he was pointing out what it looks like when someone jumps right out and makes a statement of that nature, it's a mimic technique. I see a lot of folks didn't like those statements, IOW, the point landed(I hope) with people who do make that statement when a politically charged issue goes straight to the gun control talking points. If I thought for a second that Kal was being serious with that statement I would be there with the people condemning it, as is I think people should take notice of the way it sounds when it comes from across the aisle to them.

    When issued seriously, it's a God awful thing to say. As I've named it "dancing on the graves", and is the height of disrespectful.
    Very few in this thread have gotten it. Thank you.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    A lot of people missed his point, he was pointing out what it looks like when someone jumps right out and makes a statement of that nature, it's a mimic technique. I see a lot of folks didn't like those statements, IOW, the point landed(I hope) with people who do make that statement when a politically charged issue goes straight to the gun control talking points. If I thought for a second that Kal was being serious with that statement I would be there with the people condemning it, as is I think people should take notice of the way it sounds when it comes from across the aisle to them.

    When issued seriously, it's a God awful thing to say. As I've named it "dancing on the graves", and is the height of disrespectful.
    And I'm mimicking people who take advantage of a crisis to further a political stance. Aren't they called Alisnkyists?
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And I'm mimicking people who take advantage of a crisis to further a political stance. Aren't they called Alisnkyists?
    If they are serious, you bet. I took his point as a "this is how you sound, please stop" example, and notably, a lot of people were PO'd, but the thing is, those same people dismissed it when it came from their side of the aisle. Using crises for political game is wrong, and it is in fact an Alinsky tactic.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If they are serious, you bet. I took his point as a "this is how you sound, please stop" example, and notably, a lot of people were PO'd, but the thing is, those same people dismissed it when it came from their side of the aisle. Using crises for political game is wrong, and it is in fact an Alinsky tactic.
    So every right winger who did it here is an Alinsky adherent? Or just the leftists that do it?
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