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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Umm, yes? I'd much rather be alive than dead. I'd much rather my child be alive than dead. Wouldn't you?

    Better than if they had been killed?
    You have no clue as to whethery the are better of dead or alive. Being alive can be a horrible experiance. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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    Why is it an either/or? Can't I care about the fact they lived AND care about them getting the help they need to make sure they have healthy lives?
    Sure you can. But when you think that their lives will most definitely be better off living without once considering the full consequences of living horrible lives due to pyschological and physical trauma then you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Simply being alive can be worse than being dead.

    Yeah, might be better for those that the trauma didn't happen to. But for the victims it can be worse. And the thinking absolutely that they are better off alive by those that were not the victim is just selfish.

    Don't get me wrong, i'm glad as hell that there are survivors. I hope to god that they can eventually forget what happened and live full and productive lives. But I'm also a realist. I doubt very seriously that these kids will ever get over what happened here. And I'd be surprised as hell if some suicides did not happen due to it.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    I've always been on the smaller side, so I've had to find "creative" ways to defend myself. Funny thing is, I stopped losing fights around age 15 and stopped getting into them shortly thereafter because people figured out that I was a losing proposition to fight. People who would consider attacking others should have the same attitude - that it's a losing proposition. They should know going in that if they attack a school they will end up getting stopped VERY quickly. I'd love to see big posters on the doors of our schools informing would be assailants of the kind of training the kids have been given and the level of preparedness of the staff. Let the idiots know that they will end up getting beaten unconscious, left tied up like a boneless leg of lamb and garnished with fresh rosemary by the Home Ec. class if they decide to do something stupid.
    Even with my build, I am still looking into a martial art to take because I won't be young and strong forever, and even with the advantages I do have there is no such thing as too prepared. I looked into a Kempo dojo around the area, it has a few other disciplines mixed in and the much smaller instructor gave me a small demonstration of what the discipline is about, he could throw me around like a kid, and I would love for others to have that kind of defensive training, or at least something practical. I'm just waiting to see what my time and finances will allow to join that dojo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    We had a rash of kids getting caught with those not too long ago. Fortunately they were just bored teens looking to blow up old junk, but they still broke federal law by possessing them.
    We've had several pipe bomb threats at the schools in this area this year. Some were even found. I've no doubt that something along the lines of pipe bombs being used will happen with in the next 1-2 years.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Geezus H. Christ, those kids were 14-17 years old - the same age range as 2 of my sons.

    What in the name of God would prompt a child to do something like this?
    A Child?

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You have no clue as to whethery the are better of dead or alive. Being alive can be a horrible experiance. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    A Child?
    Yes, 15 is a child. 18 is an adult.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Interesting story image at Al Jazeera America right now:

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, 15 is a child. 18 is an adult.
    It was reported the suspect is a 19 year old sophmore. I don't think I Heard it wrong. I saw in another story the guy was 16, so I don't know who was right.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As I said earlier, when they stop then I will. Indeed the ONLY reason that I did this time was due to the left doing it every single time a mass shooting happened.
    So you intentionally attempted to de-rail a thread about a horrific tragedy to score political points?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You have no clue as to whethery the are better of dead or alive.
    I do know that 20 people who are still alive is not as tragic as 20 children who were murdered. The fact you claim you are emotionally the same with children alive or dead makes me wonder just how deep the gun worship goes.

    Sure you can.
    And I do.

    Yeah, might be better for those that the trauma didn't happen to. But for the victims it can be worse. And the thinking absolutely that they are better off alive by those that were not the victim is just selfish.
    I find it far more selfish for people to exploit a tragedy just to score points against their political opponents.

    If we're discussing what we find to be selfish.

    Don't get me wrong, i'm glad as hell that there are survivors.
    At least that's something.

    I hope to god that they can eventually forget what happened and live full and productive lives. But I'm also a realist. I doubt very seriously that these kids will ever get over what happened here. And I'd be surprised as hell if some suicides did not happen due to it.
    But at least it's the choice of those children. The 20 murdered children never got to make that choice.

    Obviously we're not going to agree. I believe in the idea it's better for children to be alive than violently murdered. You obviously believe whatever makes it harder to argue against gun control (since you've already admitted it was your reason for posting). We both think we're doing what's right.

    I'll just never understand those who care more about the gun than they do human lives. And that's the closest I intend to come to discussing gun control.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    We've had several pipe bomb threats at the schools in this area this year. Some were even found. I've no doubt that something along the lines of pipe bombs being used will happen with in the next 1-2 years.
    Which is a major reason why I was willing to send my youngest son to the Philippines to finish high school - he knew several kids who were bringing guns to school.
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