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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Highly doubtful about a "gang related" problem. This school is in an upper middle income area.
    Interesting that you should mention the income of the area. Come to think of it, almost all such school rampages seem to have been in upper income areas. Off the top of my head, I can on remember two that were not:

    - One murdered, several wounded in a high school located in a working class suburb of San Diego (I lived in the area at the time)
    - Ambush in an elementary school parking lot in a rural area that my impression was mostly lower income. About two teachers and two students killed.

    Even the shooter in the Virginia Tech mass murder was apparently from an upper middle class background.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So, in your world, having kids stabbed but not killed is just as big a tragedy as having kids cut to pieces by a semi automatic rifle? Interesting.
    Yes. And apparently in your world you find kids being stabbed is less of a tragedy. Interesting indeed.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You should read, or see the movie, "We Have to Talk about Kevin." It's a really good examination into the minds of these teen males and uses real life examples to base it on.
    It's a novel. What makes you think it is an accurate portrayal of the issue?

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Highly doubtful about a "gang related" problem. This school is in an upper middle income area.
    Poor areas don't have the monopoly on gangs.

    But in the case of this kid in PA, it doesn't appear to be the case.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    A tragedy is a tragedy. Death occuring or not does not make it less so.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you're trying to say a mass murder of 20 children is equally tragic as a mass injury stabbing of 20 teens. Is that what you're saying?

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    I keeping seeing that this kid was referred to by other kids and adults at that schoolas being "shy" and "really shy" and he "always kept to himself".

    Didn't people say the same thing about Lanza?

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's a novel. What makes you think it is an accurate portrayal of the issue?
    It is fiction but it uses previous shootings and sprees and interviews with surviving shooters/attackers and psychological findings in the book and as a catalyst for the main character's actions.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've heard of those two...never read up or seen them though. Guess you were wrong huh?
    Doesn't matter. As long as you're pushing your beliefs when a crisis occurs, you're an Alinsky, Emmanuel follower.

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    Nope. Cause if it had been a gun, Obama would be on the airwaves by now.
    So you taking the opposite stance and not letting a crisis go to waste to voice your pro-gun stance is different... how?
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yeah. I don't blame someone for sheltering if there is no one in the line of attack or if there is literally nothing they can do, like trying to run down a ranged weapon, but in the case of a knife murder................step back and weaponize something, a person attacking with a knife is committed to violence without a doubt.
    We should be teaching our kids what to do in these kind of situations. Simply picking up every throwable object within reach and burying the guy under chairs, tables, scissors, staplers, three-ring binders, etc,. would have most likely brought this attack to a sudden end. It would also create a demotivation for doing this kind of thing: "What did you do to get thrown in jail?" "I attacked a Jr. High with a bayonet." "Really? How'd they catch you?" "I got pummeled by a girls health class?"
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    We should be teaching our kids what to do in these kind of situations. Simply picking up every throwable object within reach and burying the guy under chairs, tables, scissors, staplers, three-ring binders, etc,. would have most likely brought this attack to a sudden end. It would also create a demotivation for doing this kind of thing: "What did you do to get thrown in jail?" "I attacked a Jr. High with a bayonet." "Really? How'd they catch you?" "I got pummeled by a girls health class?"
    Yep. I haven't had to engage in violence in quite some time for two reasons;
    1) I am built like a tank, so that's already a deterrent
    2) I make it known that I will defend myself when the SHTF and my body language suggests that it's not just a statement, this defuses the situation and everyone walks away.

    However, if things do get nasty, I am prepared to do whatever it takes to end the situation with minimal injuries to myself and innocents and am amazed how many people aren't.
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