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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Again, how many escaped the Bushmaster at Sandy Hook?
    All of them, he used handguns and left the rifle back.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    While there exists a large gap with mental healthcare in the U.S., it is preliminary to label the young man as mentally ill IMO. People of all ages do horrendously violent acts without all of them being mentally ill by medical standards. Like, for example, the intensity of gun violence in Chicago. There are probably several serial killers on the loose that keep shooting other people to death for probably nothing more than territorial gain or it is gang related. Drug dealers and gang bangers aren't considered mentally ill for the heinous acts they commit. They're considered criminals unless they demonstrate that wires are loose in their brain housing group. Murder or wide-spread assault is not sufficient enough on its own for a mental illness diagnosis. As there have been several mass stabbings in China recently, I haven't read or heard anything that gives way to mental illness being a pivotal factor. Terrorists is the diagnosis with those cases.

    Yup, lots of 'losers.' Doesnt mean they are mentally ill...they are often those bullied or rejected or tormented by other kids and are looking for revenge and notoriety.

    And alot of them are on medications...not because they are mentally ill...but to make them easier to control, supposedly easier for them to 'focus,' and some teens react very badly to these meds. I think more just commit suicide than act out against others but both are true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What is this - "Which Tragedy Is Bigger?" I didn't know this was a one-upmanship game.

    This just happened. You don't know how many if any will die.

    Careful...you're making this thread about Newtown and how bad guns are. Some others were ranting earlier at someone for bringing up an agenda in this thread - even though like you, they were also turning this thread into a platform for gun control. I'm sure they will take you to task as they did that poster.
    They haven't in the past. It was called "musing" and "looking for an answer" which was Kal's point, and I think he landed it quite brilliantly.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    What about the media? I was half joking in my OP about the TV Show the Following but in reality its a very violent show in which there are lots of mass stabbings. Do you think Western governments should regulate media more or is it the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids are not watching these type of shows.
    It's the parents responsibility ultimately. I would be interested in more accountability be placed on the parents in certain cases. We shall see if this is one of those cases.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The scary thing is, this might start a trend with these losers....drama, recognition, a weapon found in the kitchen, more 'hands on,' they focus on the drama of that notoriety and one-upsmanship.
    I do think there is a bit of a copycat component to these things, we have over the last century or so become a fame society, and to a person who is sick and suicidal it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to accomplish fame via notoriety as a final act.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    They haven't in the past. It was called "musing" and "looking for an answer" which was Kal's point, and I think he landed it quite brilliantly.
    Yup, and I noticed that the people who were most vocal about Kal started their posts on this thread with agendas, as I pointed out in an earlier post by copying their own first posts on this subject.

    Hypocrisy runs deep in some of these people.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I actually am not unfortunately. I'm seeing patterns of people being less and less independent and unfortunately if we keep up the mentality that "someone else will deal with it" then bad actors will further be enabled to do stuff like this. A few years back there was a story of fully grown college students freezing in terror while a male student stabbed a co-ed to death in the cafeteria, none of them knew what to do or took the initiative to stop him and said they were "afraid". I just can't fathom that kind of response but apparently it is real.
    Kids are taught to report and wait for the police. They are taught they cannot hit a bully even to defend themselves.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I do think there is a bit of a copycat component to these things, we have over the last century or so become a fame society, and to a person who is sick and suicidal it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to accomplish fame via notoriety as a final act.
    You should read, or see the movie, "We Have to Talk about Kevin." It's a really good examination into the minds of these teen males and uses real life examples to base it on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Something needs to be done about the way we treat people who are mentally ill. Bring back the sanatorium. Humane care in secure facilities. Psychiatric drugs are not working obviously.
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    Re: Mass stabbing at US school.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, and I noticed that the people who were most vocal about Kal started their posts on this thread with agendas, as I pointed out in an earlier post by copying their own first posts on this subject.

    Hypocrisy runs deep in some of these people.
    Out of respect for the victims I try to stay true to the issue, that isn't weapons. What the people with agendas do not understand(the ones at the top do, but they are very talented liars) is that when they focus on the symptom(weapons use, violence) they take away valuable time and attention from the roots of the problem and this retards attempts to actually fix it, which is already going to be very difficult. The tactic of going straight to the agenda during an attack like this is something I've named "dancing on the graves", it's a sick and callous opportunistic "shaming". The people who do this I'm convinced don't give a damn about the dead or injured, if they did they would slow down and stop using this suffering as a chance to advance their issue.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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