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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    fact is as more people move into an area and the more income that comes into the area prices generally go up. just look at ND. the energy boom there has driven housing prices through the roof but their unemployment rate of 2.8% counters that as people are getting paid well enough to afford it.

    i never said everyone could be a billionaire, but you can't really do better for yourself standing outside someone's housing carrying a protest sign.
    that isn't going to accomplish anything. creating your own idea and or job skills will make it better for yourself.
    Just because unemployment is low doesn't necessarily mean people are being paid better, but i agree overall.

    My main point is the "fight" is basically over gentrification. And gentrification is a complex.process with real iasues for real people.

    Its NOT just poor people being jealous of rich people. I'm not sure how accurate the "the lazy poor are just jealous of the hardworking rich" meme is. I see it here and there but it's not part of "mainstream" leftist thought.

    IME its much more nuanced and focuses on real issues arising from our latest iteration of capitalism, which came into being circa the mid seventies. Technologies and practises that have changed the "game" on a fundamental level.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you want to carry your gun then yes. But Gun ownership is a right, your desire to take my wealth is not.



    If you had actually read the link I provided from the Cali ACLU you would have seen that permits are rarely turned down, but that they are there not only to provide for services needed for these types of protests, but to make sure that others rights were not infringed like what happened here in this illegal protest.
    So problems with protests justify limitations on free speech.

    I actually see that point and agree as long as the permit process isn't being abused to silence protest.

    Yet I'm betting you support unlimited anonymous campaign contributions, even though there are obviously problems involving the corrupting influence of money in politics.

    Why ia one set of problems worthy of being addressed while the other set is completely dismissed?
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Its not a left/right issue its about people being priced out of their homes and apartments, no one likes that regardless of politics.
    So, how is this gentleman pricing them out of their homes? Did you read the flier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no one is booting them out. if they can't afford the rent then they have to move that is not booting people out.
    a landlord has a right to price his apartment at market level. it isn't up to the government to decide what he should charge for apartments.

    if his rent is to high for the building that people are moving into then people won't move in and he will be forced to lower it.
    more people moving in with high paying jobs will cause the prices to raise this is just basic economics.
    And when all those displaced have to move elsewhere that increases demand THERE and causes rents to go up and on and on. While no one is building low income housing because it isn't profitable and generates little tax revenue.

    Its not as simple as you seem to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
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    There ya go. First result out of hundreds of pages
    Nothing in that report describes him as a 'conservative', 'right winger', 'right leaning', etc.... What, are you just going to pull up assholes, and assume that they must align with the right? pathetic.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So problems with protests justify limitations on free speech.

    I actually see that point and agree as long as the permit process isn't being abused to silence protest.

    Yet I'm betting you support unlimited anonymous campaign contributions, even though there are obviously problems involving the corrupting influence of money in politics.

    Why ia one set of problems worthy of being addressed while the other set is completely dismissed?
    You're trying awfully hard What if, to tell me what I think.....Look, if the protesters were legal in what they were doing then fine, we on the right should remember that and do the same to those leftists that further things we disagree with....I am sure some supporting the protesters wouldn't like that too much.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Seriously? they have had no impact on First Amendment rights - as a matter of fact they're embracing the First Amendment. I don't agree with their message, however I support their right to protest.

    I know a lot of tyrants would love to ban them from society just because they don't agree with them and their message, however that would be a serious infraction an the Bill of Rights - not to mention would create a slippery slope that would lead us into an Orwellian totalitarian society.

    Sometimes you just have to put up with these crazy groups and their protests because as weird as it may seem and how ironic some of their messages are - they're protecting the First Amendment by practicing and embracing it.
    Yea, seriously.

    I guess that their win @ SCOTUS has no bearing, even though is was based on 1A rights, which WNC won.

    Silly old me.

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The argument isn't around technology, trying to frame it as such is dishonest.
    So, who said it was about technology? Not me...Try again.

    It's about the fact that people who make a ton of money in tech jobs live in less exepensive areas and drive up the price so that people who have been there are forced out. The tech companies, like Yahoo, enable this by running private buses from these areas in San Francisco and Oakland to their HQ in Silicon Valley.
    Aren't people free to live where they want in this country? I wasn't aware that one needed permission to buy a home in a certain area if they are over a certain income level....

    Eventually, the people who don't make tech bucks don't have anywhere they can afford to live. This is a problem for society as a whole unless these folks want to start scrubbing the toilets and serving fries themselves.
    And there you go....Those with means must give them up in order for you to approve where they live....What a crock....
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, who said it was about technology? Not me...Try again.
    You followed the rules and used the title from the link. Whoever did write that title framed the argument dishonestly.



    Aren't people free to live where they want in this country? I wasn't aware that one needed permission to buy a home in a certain area if they are over a certain income level....
    Sure, the problem isn't that a few people choose to live there. The ultimate problem is that they are encouraged and enabled by tech employers. If they had to drive to work like most of us do, they'd probably live closer.


    And there you go....Those with means must give them up in order for you to approve where they live....What a crock....
    And there you go...can't actually make a decent argument, so you make one up. Typical. Affordable housing is a problem in some areas. If the janitors are priced out of the area, where do they live? Should all the janitors be homeless because they don't have enough money for you to give a crap? Why is it only "class warfare" when those on the lower end of the ladder do it? This IS class warfare, even when the higher incomes are doing it to the lower incomes. What happens when these neighborhoods get overpriced? People move to the next neighborhood down, and the buses follow them. Where is the affordable housing? You may not like the way they do it, but who's going to bring the issue to the forefront?


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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And when all those displaced have to move elsewhere that increases demand THERE and causes rents to go up and on and on. While no one is building low income housing because it isn't profitable and generates little tax revenue.

    Its not as simple as you seem to believe.
    It is hard to build low income housing. Cities don't like it and neither do other people that live in the area. it also tends to bring in a lot of crime.

    however you can't blame it on the tech industry. people cry that they want high paying jobs. when high paying jobs come in people complain.

    you need to make up your mind.

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