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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    In the Bay Area this issue goes back to well before Obama. It was a big issue during the previous dot com boom (circa 1997-2001) and gentrification has been an issue since at least the mid-eighties. During the dot com booms the price of housing and other real estate has shot through the roof and has displaced many lower-mid income people as well as many of the artists, musicians etc. who make San Francisco an interesting place to live and visit and attract tourists and visitors from the region. (San Jose is a larger city than San Francisco but it is not a destination for tourists or people seeking entertainment.) There are also major cultural/political differences between the locals and the recently arrived tech workers. The result is that many of the low income people who used to live in SF had to move to the outer 'burbs and now have to commute for 1-3 hours per week and the creative community has relocated to Oakland.

    Even Kevin Rose wrote; "that said, I did agree w/ them that we need to solve rising rents, keep the SF culture, and crack down on landlords booting folks out."

    Some of the protesters are extremist, off-target and sometimes harm their cause, but it is an issue that has many people concerned, including most political leaders and even many of the tech workers. The issue was being ignored by most politicians until the protests began.
    no one is booting them out. if they can't afford the rent then they have to move that is not booting people out.
    a landlord has a right to price his apartment at market level. it isn't up to the government to decide what he should charge for apartments.

    if his rent is to high for the building that people are moving into then people won't move in and he will be forced to lower it.
    more people moving in with high paying jobs will cause the prices to raise this is just basic economics.

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And if an angry mob showed up at my house with literature publishing my address, you can bet your ass I'll call the cops. Your right to protest be damned. I'm not placing my safety (or my family's safety) in the hands of a horde of angry barbarians.
    If they are on your property, then of course you have legal recourse.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Of course - WBC is the poster child for such rights.
    I have and still do argue for their right to protest. My support for assembly and protest is not broken along partisan lines.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If they are on your property, then of course you have legal recourse.
    The police showed up in this case too, you know.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The stress is the same.

    locals need to improve their job.
    the price of having high paying jobs in the area is that housing prices go up as more people move into the area. supply vs demand.
    you can't have it both ways.
    Locals can't always improve their jobs, guy. In my home town (which is in the periphery of the boom area), I know single moms that had their rent jack up so much they are hoping that they can become a home owner. That's not an easy task in that housing market. This boom has uprooted a lot of folks that do not or can not have the jobs that pay enough to sustain their living arrangements. There are many parts of North Dakota's economy that cannot keep up with the oil sector and we do not have enough housing to deal with the growth. That's just reality down here.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Do you seriously not understand the impact that they have had on 1A rights?

    You are quite clueless, it seems.
    Seriously? they have had no impact on First Amendment rights - as a matter of fact they're embracing the First Amendment. I don't agree with their message, however I support their right to protest.

    I know a lot of tyrants would love to ban them from society just because they don't agree with them and their message, however that would be a serious infraction an the Bill of Rights - not to mention would create a slippery slope that would lead us into an Orwellian totalitarian society.

    Sometimes you just have to put up with these crazy groups and their protests because as weird as it may seem and how ironic some of their messages are - they're protecting the First Amendment by practicing and embracing it.

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Nothing in this story says left other than right wing paranoia. I dont see the problem here.
    Yeah, they are in San Francisco, complaining about rich people, calling them leeches, and harassing them for being successful.... I just assumed they were Amish.
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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The police showed up in this case too, you know.
    That's fine. If people are on public property, they should be allowed protest, but they don't get access to private property nor may they engage in vandalism. There are legal recourses available for both circumstances.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Several reports of this incident have made the news, all trying to re-categorize the protesters as something other than leftist OWS types. This is not far different than the discussion on another thread concerning the Mozilla exec forced to resign.

    What are your thoughts as to this type of bullying by the extreme left?
    The argument isn't around technology, trying to frame it as such is dishonest. It's about the fact that people who make a ton of money in tech jobs live in less exepensive areas and drive up the price so that people who have been there are forced out. The tech companies, like Yahoo, enable this by running private buses from these areas in San Francisco and Oakland to their HQ in Silicon Valley.

    Eventually, the people who don't make tech bucks don't have anywhere they can afford to live. This is a problem for society as a whole unless these folks want to start scrubbing the toilets and serving fries themselves.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Anti-Tech Protesters Target VC With Vulgar Flyer

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Do you seriously not understand the impact that they have had on 1A rights?

    You are quite clueless, it seems.
    The First Amendment doesn't apply to Liberals. It's in the fine print.


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