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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

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    Is it any different than Germany and Rumania working together in the summer of 1941?
    Everybody is hitler now?

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    With the current performance of our CIC, they might disagree with you.
    Iran might hate us but they don't suffer from the Obama Derangement Syndrome that so many in this country do. They don't share a belief in this caricature you've concocted for yourself.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

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    Everybody is hitler now?
    Bush was Hitler, Obama is Hitler, maybe we should stop ****ing electing Hitler!
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

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    Bush was Hitler, Obama is Hitler, maybe we should stop ****ing electing Hitler!
    China might be the next hitler too.

    China warns U.S. not to meddle in Hong Kong over democratic reform | Reuters

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Iran might hate us but they don't suffer from the Obama Derangement Syndrome that so many in this country do. They don't share a belief in this caricature you've concocted for yourself.
    They certainly don't worship the silly bastard like you do. They view hin as a weak, cartoonish head of state. Obama has been stepping on his dick ever sense his, "red-line", bull****.
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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Bush was Hitler, Obama is Hitler, maybe we should stop ****ing electing Hitler!
    Maybe you should stop trying to be so damned dramatic!
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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Power, money, prestige, a chance to hurt western countries.

    Look at what's going on, all of a sudden, NK and China making a show in Asia. Russia pushing west in Europe and Iran conducting joint excersizes with Pakistan in. The Straits of Hormuz. All on the heels of a lack of backbone by the president, the purging of our general officer corps and the announcement that we're drawing our armed forces down to one of it's lowest levels in American history.
    I think in each instance the activities of the countries are not the result of perceiving weakness on the part of Obama, but rather the result of US foreign policy that is perceived by those countries as either US encroachment on their sphere of influence right next to their borders, US interference in unresolved territorial disputes with other nations, or the imposition of harsh US sanctions that crippled a country's economy.

    In the case of Pakistan, it was forced by the US to engage in a war against people that they had been living with relatively peacefully before the US invasion of Afghanistan. I recall well how Pervez Musharraf pleaded that we urge our friends to wrap up their mission as soon as possible because it was causing Pakistan great difficulty. Instead the US keep up the pressure on Pakistan and eventually the relations turned to their current sour state. Pakistan's moves to create stronger ties with Iran should be seen in that light, rather than some perceived weakness on the part of Obama.

    I find it rather remarkable that at this time, people who purport to be patriots appear to be rather eager to paint the US as weak. It is amazing what people won't do to score political points.

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    A demonstration of practical trust-building efforts between two states that have historically enjoyed relatively stable relations but have the potential for much friction. People should not read more into this than there is.
    Perhaps. But why stage them in such a strategically important location? It is perhaps a message from both countries that if they are attacked, this is the type of response that is to be expected? I really don't know.

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Perhaps. But why stage them in such a strategically important location? It is perhaps a message from both countries that if they are attacked, this is the type of response that is to be expected? I really don't know.
    To twit the United States and because that is where Iran's major naval facility is (at Bandar Abbas) and it's very close to Pakistan's largest naval base at Karachi so it's easy to organize.

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    Re: Navies of Iran, Pakistan to hold joint drill in Hormuz strait

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    To twit the United States and because that is where Iran's major naval facility is (at Bandar Abbas) and it's very close to Pakistan's largest naval base at Karachi so it's easy to organize.
    That sounds reasonable. What I don't see happening anytime soon is Pakistan coming to aid Iran against the US in case of a US attack on Iran. I don't think Pakistan is that foolish.

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