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    Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed against the U.S. government by the families of three American citizens killed by U.S. drones in Yemen, saying senior officials cannot be held personally responsible for money damages for the act of conducting war.

    Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge | Reuters

    This is injustice on many different levels.

    1. The US government has not declared war on any nation, specifically Yemen.
    2. This was a targeted assassination, not a battle in any war zone.
    3. It was SPECIFICALLY directed at American citizens, civilians, not foreign troops.
    4. In legal terms, the dismissal is a violation of the First Amendment's protected right of redress.

    I'm sure there's more but these are some of the main issues.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Drone strikes against foreign countries without a declaration of war...the weapon of cowards and bullies.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Drone strikes against foreign countries without a declaration of war...the weapon of cowards and bullies.
    Not to mention WAR CRIMINALS.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    No surprise that another corrupt US judge would support the status quo. All 3 branches, corrupt as can be.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed against the U.S. government by the families of three American citizens killed by U.S. drones in Yemen, saying senior officials cannot be held personally responsible for money damages for the act of conducting war.

    Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge | Reuters

    This is injustice on many different levels.

    1. The US government has not declared war on any nation, specifically Yemen.
    2. This was a targeted assassination, not a battle in any war zone.
    3. It was SPECIFICALLY directed at American citizens, civilians, not foreign troops.
    4. In legal terms, the dismissal is a violation of the First Amendment's protected right of redress.

    I'm sure there's more but these are some of the main issues.
    We are still finding our way in the treatment of terrorism. War was declared on the US, but it was by a non state collective. This is not traditionally what law has viewed as war. So we must probably address this legislatively.
    After all few would say that these people were not deadly criminals hiding out. And had to be stopped. They were factually wanted dead or alive.

    But you are right in that the decision requires thinking about.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We are still finding our way in the treatment of terrorism. War was declared on the US, but it was by a non state collective. This is not traditionally what law has viewed as war. So we must probably address this legislatively.
    After all few would say that these people were not deadly criminals hiding out. And had to be stopped. They were factually wanted dead or alive.

    But you are right in that the decision requires thinking about.
    I also agree that the solution is not to throw our hands up and walk away just because wanted criminals don't want to turn themselves in to law enforcement. I think the solution is rather simple; American suspects should be tried in absentia if they refuse to avail themselves of their right to due process.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We are still finding our way in the treatment of terrorism. War was declared on the US, but it was by a non state collective. This is not traditionally what law has viewed as war. So we must probably address this legislatively.
    After all few would say that these people were not deadly criminals hiding out. And had to be stopped. They were factually wanted dead or alive.

    But you are right in that the decision requires thinking about.
    Good heavens man, we have "found our way" in the GWOT, years ago. That's what the banner on the carrier said: Mission Accomplished, in finding our way in the GWOT. I'm still not sure who "we" actually is, but a way was found to the US Treasury, and it was duly looted, with the GWOT providing the cover for the plunder of the treasury.

    This decision is John Yoo's legacy, and he's teaching law in California. Pretty sad statement for the US Legal Profession, those claiming to favor the rule of law.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed against the U.S. government by the families of three American citizens killed by U.S. drones in Yemen, saying senior officials cannot be held personally responsible for money damages for the act of conducting war.

    Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge | Reuters

    This is injustice on many different levels.

    1. The US government has not declared war on any nation, specifically Yemen.
    2. This was a targeted assassination, not a battle in any war zone.
    3. It was SPECIFICALLY directed at American citizens, civilians, not foreign troops.
    4. In legal terms, the dismissal is a violation of the First Amendment's protected right of redress.

    I'm sure there's more but these are some of the main issues.
    It's an awkward situation with a great deal of potential for abuse, but the overall policy is the "correct" one.

    The nature of terrorism is such that commanders can play their role from the comparative safety of battlefield free zones countries away from the main action, coordinating attacks through the 21st century's information infrastructure.

    Not formulating a strategy that responds to those realities is the same thing as admitting that terrorists can attack us without any fear of reprisal.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Good. It should have been dismissed sooner.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed against the U.S. government by the families of three American citizens killed by U.S. drones in Yemen, saying senior officials cannot be held personally responsible for money damages for the act of conducting war.

    Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge | Reuters





    This is injustice on many different levels.

    1. The US government has not declared war on any nation, specifically Yemen.
    2. This was a targeted assassination, not a battle in any war zone.
    3. It was SPECIFICALLY directed at American citizens, civilians, not foreign troops.
    4. In legal terms, the dismissal is a violation of the First Amendment's protected right of redress.

    I'm sure there's more but these are some of the main issues.
    And who do the courts work for again?

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