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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    I meant it in the sense of a specific authorization for the use of force and not just a "blanket" endorsement.
    Yes that is what I meant as well.

    I would not advocating using them to replace the military but I think the occasional use of such a tool could work well in some circumstances

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    The constitution is law.
    So just "constitution"? That's all?

    I answered you and it allows nothing like this especially drone bombing US citizens
    Sure it does. Where it provides for a defense.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    There is no delegated power to provide for the common Offense or the general Warfare.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So just "constitution"? That's all?
    What do you mean "just the constitution"? The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land by its own mandate. Besides it isn't just the Constitution, there are also several international treaties that the US is a signatory to, as well as the Nuremburg Principles that not only describe war crimes in detail but prohibit it. International treaties become part of the Constitution via the Supremacy clause.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Looks like you do.
    Again a drone bombing someone is conducting warfare.We are not at war with Yemen so we have no business dropping bombs and rockets in a country we are not at war with.


    Looks like they do..
    You a full of **** if you honestly think people want a foreign government coming in and bombing innocent civilians.Would you want a another country coming into the USA to bomb civilians and alleged terrorists?


    Looks like it is
    lt is not.Conducting warfare in countries we are not war with will only harm us in the future and open us to other countries doing the same to us.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    No grounds for dismissal.

    Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was killed at the age of 16 in an American drone strike on October 14, 2011, in Yemen, along with alleged al-Qaeda members two weeks after the death of his father.[251] Nine other people were killed in the same CIA-led attack. Among the dead was a 17-year-old cousin of Abdulrahman.[252] According to U.S. officials the killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a mistake; the actual target was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was reported to have gone out in the desert to search for his missing father but was sitting in a cafe when he was killed.[253] Human rights groups have raised questions as to why an American citizen was killed by the U.S. in a country with which the United States is not at war. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki had no connection to terrorism.

    Out and out cold-blooded murder of an teenager not accused of any crime. The US might as well have sent an assassin to walk up to the boy and put a bullet through his forehead just because they didn't like the shoes he was wearing.
    You flip your ****ing lid over some kid who got killed after hanging out with terrorists, but a cop pulls out a gun on American kids building a treehouse and you justify it? Lol.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    What do you mean "just the constitution"? The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land by its own mandate. Besides it isn't just the Constitution, there are also several international treaties that the US is a signatory to, as well as the Nuremburg Principles that not only describe war crimes in detail but prohibit it. International treaties become part of the Constitution via the Supremacy clause.
    I mean just as in...there's nothing specific? That's it? He just says "the constitution" and expects that to end the discussion? That's funny.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again a drone bombing someone is conducting warfare.We are not at war with Yemen so we have no business dropping bombs and rockets in a country we are not at war with.
    And we're not attacking any Yemeni government targets, so your point is moot. We're not at war with the Yemeni government, nor are we attacking Yemeni government targets. You don't have a point here. There's no contradiction.

    You a full of **** if you honestly think people want a foreign government coming in and bombing innocent civilians.
    No one wants innocent civilians killed, have you been drinking? Many people, though, are willing to live within a margin of error. You are, for example.

    Would you want a another country coming into the USA to bomb civilians and alleged terrorists?
    I might. Because I'm not all emotion. Are you?

    lt is not.Conducting warfare in countries we are not war with will only harm us in the future and open us to other countries doing the same to us.
    Oh stop. It worked in the Philippines. Are you just spouting off talking points now? This is so sad.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I mean just as in...there's nothing specific? That's it? He just says "the constitution" and expects that to end the discussion? That's funny.
    Would you like an answer from me? I'm not going to speak for him, just for me.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    Would you like an answer from me? I'm not going to speak for him, just for me.
    Well...no? You're not the one who said "the constitution!" when I asked about which law it was against.
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