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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How is it conducting war when we are not at war with that country? I have no problem with drones being used to kill people in a country we are at war with.But last I checked we are not at war with Yemen.Hopefully this can be appealed.
    How do you want to treat persons organizing operations of mass murder from areas, where the warlord or elite protect those persons.

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    How do you want to treat persons organizing operations of mass murder from areas, where the warlord or elite protect those persons.
    We are not at war with Yemen.So it doesn't matter what that individual is ALLEGEDLY doing. If we were at war with that country then sure bomb his ass and anyone seeking to harm our troops.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We are not at war with Yemen.So it doesn't matter what that individual is ALLEGEDLY doing.
    Why does whether or not the US is at war with Yemen important to this discussion?
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Why does whether or not the US is at war with Yemen important to this discussion?
    Drones strikes/dropping a bomb on someone are military actions.We have to no business conducting military action in a country we are not at war with.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Drones strikes are military action.We have to no business conducting military action in a country we are not at war with.
    Yet the Yemenese government allows it...so why does it matter?
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Yet the Yemenese government allows it...so why does it matter?
    Those in the Yemen government are not the ones getting bombed and I seriously doubt the people in that country approve of such a violation of their sovereignty. I know I would not approve of another country bombing people in the US and any elected official that allowed it would have their head on a silver platter.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Those in the Yemen government are not the ones getting bombed and I seriously doubt the people in that country approve of such a violation of their sovereignty.
    Okay? The point is the US doesn't need to be at war with Yemen to do that (obviously), the Yemenese government welcomes it. The US is "at war" with the people it's bombing, not the nation of Yemen. It'd be kinda dumb to declare war on the government- a government that is friendly with the US- just to fulfill your very arbitrary criteria, wouldn't it?

    "Yeah, we actually get along with you, Yemen, but jamesrage over at debatepolitics.com says we can't conduct drones strikes unless we're at war with you. Oh, yeah, I know you want us to conduct them but...he posted it, so...those are the rules!"
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Okay? The point is the US doesn't need to be at war with Yemen to do that (obviously),
    Again bombing someone is a military action,We have no business taking military action in a country we are not war with.


    the Yemenese government welcomes it.
    I am sure our government bribed some government officials in that country to **** their own sovereignty.

    The US is "at war" with the people it's bombing, not the nation of Yemen.
    So it is war with the innocent civilians caught in the bombing?

    It'd be kinda dumb to declare war on the government- a government that is friendly with the US- just to fulfill your very arbitrary criteria, wouldn't it?
    What is dumb to claim we are at war with someone instead of a country.
    "Yeah, we actually get along with you, Yemen, but jamesrage over at debatepolitics.com says we can't conduct drones strikes unless we're at war with you. Oh, yeah, I know you want us to conduct them but...he posted it, so...those are the rules!"
    If Yemen is so concerned about terrorists in their country then they can use their own resources to take care of it. We have no business in there.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again bombing someone is a military action,We have no business taking military action in a country we are not war with.
    Just because you said so?


    I am sure our government bribed some government officials in that country to **** their own sovereignty.
    Hahaha you certainly hope so, don't you? God forbid it was it was actually for the purposes of national interest.

    So it is war with the innocent civilians caught in the bombing?
    Yep.

    What is dumb to claim we are at war with someone instead of a country.
    Then we agree!

    If Yemen is so concerned about terrorists in their country then they can use their own resources to take care of it. We have no business in there.
    Uhhh...no. We'll help while it's in our best interests to. Your dissension is noted, thank you.
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    Re: Lawsuit over American drone strikes dismissed by U.S. judge

    I believe drone strikes should require letters of marque or reprisal.

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