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Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

Rights in private property are secured by States in the US. That form of socialism enables our form of capitalism and any wealth creation as a result.

That's almost exactly what I said, except for the different parts. Well, if the property really is private, then it's the privatism that stirs the drink into capitalism.
 
You are omitting fiat money's value as a medium of exchange.

And you are ignoring Supply and demand. You also have no understanding of human behavior. I assure you that will come with age and experience. Soon you are going to realize just how much you don't know.
 
lowering our tax burden through simplification of public policies can also have an effect on politicians claiming to be for lower taxes. why not get a clue and a Cause.

Just like our Founders understood, so do I, power corrupts and lowering the tax burden is something many politicians don't understand and will never accept. Economic growth is something foreign to far too many. Most ignore that Reagan cut income taxes and increased income tax revenue by 60% because his policies generated 17 million new taxpayers. Seems you have no clue which comes from your youth and inexperienced. At your age you should listen more and post less.
 
I'd like to ask Daniel in the simplest of analogies.

If today I pay $2. For a loaf of bread.. and your dream of the treasury just ramping up the presses to flood the country with money and that same loaf of bread now costs $4.50 how is that better?
 
The interstate highway system or air traffic control is not a drain on the economy. ;)
Those things are an expense, but the costs is likely (don't know what the numbers are) outweighed by the benefits.
 
Those things are an expense, but the costs is likely (don't know what the numbers are) outweighed by the benefits.

I am glad that you understand that. So why did you lie by saying "The government does not add to the economy, everything they do is a drain on the economy"?
 
I am glad that you understand that. So why did you lie by saying "The government does not add to the economy, everything they do is a drain on the economy"?

And today, how much of the highways bills actually pay for upgrades, and improvements? Remember, I log 3000 + miles per week.
 
I am glad that you understand that. So why did you lie by saying "The government does not add to the economy, everything they do is a drain on the economy"?
Actually I jumped into the convo, I'm not the guy who said that.

However, I would partially agree with him... These days, far too much of what the government does is an expense which is, at best, paired with a break-even benefit, and at worst, causes harm rather than helping.
 
That's almost exactly what I said, except for the different parts. Well, if the property really is private, then it's the privatism that stirs the drink into capitalism.

yes, but only because of the stable "free trade area" known as the markets of the US.
 
And you are ignoring Supply and demand. You also have no understanding of human behavior. I assure you that will come with age and experience. Soon you are going to realize just how much you don't know.

You claim that, but you only appeal to ignorance. I do take the laws of demand and supply seriously simply because all of the market friendly public policies I advocate for, subscribe to the theory of demand and supply and the assumption of perfectly competitive markets or full employment of resources.

Why do you believe any private sector in the US would be worse off if every customer could not claim to be in poverty (of money)?
 
Just like our Founders understood, so do I, power corrupts and lowering the tax burden is something many politicians don't understand and will never accept. Economic growth is something foreign to far too many. Most ignore that Reagan cut income taxes and increased income tax revenue by 60% because his policies generated 17 million new taxpayers. Seems you have no clue which comes from your youth and inexperienced. At your age you should listen more and post less.

You may be missing the point; I am not advocating playing shell games with statism, but actually lowering our tax burden through simplification of public policies.
 
I'd like to ask Daniel in the simplest of analogies.

If today I pay $2. For a loaf of bread.. and your dream of the treasury just ramping up the presses to flood the country with money and that same loaf of bread now costs $4.50 how is that better?

It would be better if wages outpace inflation.
 
You claim that, but you only appeal to ignorance. I do take the laws of demand and supply seriously simply because all of the market friendly public policies I advocate for, subscribe to the theory of demand and supply and the assumption of perfectly competitive markets or full employment of resources.

Why do you believe any private sector in the US would be worse off if every customer could not claim to be in poverty (of money)?

No, sorry, you have no concept of supply and demand as evidenced by your thoughts about the govt. printing more money thus increasing the supply. What effect will that have on value? As for my ignorance I have already admitted that you are much smarter and superior to me. I only have a BS degree and 35 years experience in the business world dealing with real life not textbook problems including human behavior. I am sure your textbook education trumps that real life experience.

You have yet to offer a solution to the poverty problem and how you propose to get every American above the poverty line which by the way would make these people upper middle class or upper class in many countries. Your inexperience and lack of real life experience is showing. You talk mumble jumble and say nothing which just shows your inability to comprehend the private sector economy and the vision of our Founders. How is that small central govt and part time legislature working out for us?
 
It would be better if wages outpace inflation.


No problem, just print more money and give people a higher wage or pay them more money to be unemployed, that will certainly not cause inflation and will cause prices to drop, won't it?
 
fuel taxes pay for road infrastructure.

Not as much as you think. The politcians play fast and lose with whatever money they get their hands on, and gas taxes is one of their sources of money.
 
Yes and we know how accurate the "official" govt. numbers are. My bet is that 2.8 million are collecting unemployment benefits in your state alone
Ummm, we're talking the administrative numbers from the state unemployment offices and the federal program data. The initial estimates may be a little off due to incomplete reporting, but you're seriously going to claim massive underreporting of how many people are getting benefits? Why would the state's underreport at all, let alone by that much? And what evidence do you have?
 
Ummm, we're talking the administrative numbers from the state unemployment offices and the federal program data. The initial estimates may be a little off due to incomplete reporting, but you're seriously going to claim massive underreporting of how many people are getting benefits? Why would the state's underreport at all, let alone by that much? And what evidence do you have?

It really doesn't matter how many are collecting unemployment benefits what matters are the number of people unemployed, under employed, discouraged workers, that is except to Obama supporters. We know that in mid 2010 there were over 16 million unemployed/discouraged workers and another 8 million permanent part time workers who wanted full time employment. That number is extremely high today and close to 20 million signifying the stagnant and very poor Obama economy
 
No, sorry, you have no concept of supply and demand as evidenced by your thoughts about the govt. printing more money thus increasing the supply. What effect will that have on value? As for my ignorance I have already admitted that you are much smarter and superior to me. I only have a BS degree and 35 years experience in the business world dealing with real life not textbook problems including human behavior. I am sure your textbook education trumps that real life experience.

You have yet to offer a solution to the poverty problem and how you propose to get every American above the poverty line which by the way would make these people upper middle class or upper class in many countries. Your inexperience and lack of real life experience is showing. You talk mumble jumble and say nothing which just shows your inability to comprehend the private sector economy and the vision of our Founders. How is that small central govt and part time legislature working out for us?

It is only your straw man argument that claims what you do, and your diversion indicates the opposite of what you claim. Full employment of resources in the market for labor would simulate a commodity.

Why do you believe any private sector in the US would be worse off if every customer could not claim to be in poverty (of money)?
 
No problem, just print more money and give people a higher wage or pay them more money to be unemployed, that will certainly not cause inflation and will cause prices to drop, won't it?

Only if you don't believe in the laws of demand and supply with the public sector "competing" for labor in that market friendly manner.
 
It is only your straw man argument that claims what you do, and your diversion indicates the opposite of what you claim. Full employment of resources in the market for labor would simulate a commodity.

Why do you believe any private sector in the US would be worse off if every customer could not claim to be in poverty (of money)?

Your opinion noted but I know what I did and I know what I think you do. You are in for a real shock when you realize what a fool those textbooks have made out of you. You have no idea what real poverty is and there really isn't a lot of that in this country when compared to the rest of the world. You have spoken in riddles, never given any solutions, use terms like poverty that you don't understand, and apply textbook theory to real life human behavior. I don't think that gives you a lot of credibility
 
Only if you don't believe in the laws of demand and supply with the public sector "competing" for labor in that market friendly manner.

Friendly manner? The govt. vs the private sector is like an allegator fighting a duck. Better go after one of those public sector jobs because you will never be able to compete in the private sector.
 
That was not the point; fuel taxes are used for road infrastructure.

Since Fuel taxes go into the General fund how do you know that politicians are using them for the roads? Just another naive comment on your part
 
Your opinion noted but I know what I did and I know what I think you do. You are in for a real shock when you realize what a fool those textbooks have made out of you. You have no idea what real poverty is and there really isn't a lot of that in this country when compared to the rest of the world. You have spoken in riddles, never given any solutions, use terms like poverty that you don't understand, and apply textbook theory to real life human behavior. I don't think that gives you a lot of credibility

Nope; we are Only discussing relative poverty in the US.

Why do you believe any private sector in the US would be worse off if every customer could not claim to be in poverty (of money)?
 
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