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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    He disagrees with that take on the matter.

    He is of the opinion that the massive government spending prolonged the Great Depression, and the war ended it.
    The war was massive government spending itself as well... which would be pretty much the same theory.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    I prefer not to Appeal to Ignorance of our own laws.
    I suppose it this means that you know better than Wikipedia? That's a pretty bold statement to make.

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    The general powers are specifically enumerated. Why should anyone believe they are not real powers?
    No one is saying that they are not real powers. Whiff. Correct. They are enumerated. Guess what. Unemployment and welfare aren't specifically included. Some have taken the interpretation to include unemployment and welfare, but an equally valid interpretation is that they don't.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    The war was massive government spending itself as well... which would be pretty much the same theory.
    Yes, but war spending is good spending, and non-war spending is bad...

    Ok I'm making **** up now, I don't really know if conservative agrees.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I suppose it this means that you know better than Wikipedia? That's a pretty bold statement to make.

    No one is saying that they are not real powers. Whiff. Correct. They are enumerated. Guess what. Unemployment and welfare aren't specifically included. Some have taken the interpretation to include unemployment and welfare, but an equally valid interpretation is that they don't.
    If they are real powers, then why would anyone believe in a wiki article that may claim they are not real powers?

    to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States;
    if any of the above are real powers then they must all be, real powers.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    simply due to the scale economies involved. you may want to look into the Manhattan project.
    Well, that answer makes no sense at all, I wouldn't consider it even close to an explanation. But, as with Obama, this was expected.
    I'll help you out a bit. The government sucks money OUT of the private sector. It spends and causes tremendous debt that the private sector has to pay for.
    Let us know when it would be a good thing if an identity thief ran up about five credit cards in your name.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, that answer makes no sense at all, I wouldn't consider it even close to an explanation. But, as with Obama, this was expected.
    I'll help you out a bit. The government sucks money OUT of the private sector. It spends and causes tremendous debt that the private sector has to pay for.
    Let us know when it would be a good thing if an identity thief ran up about five credit cards in your name.
    Let me help you out under our form of Capitalism; our federal Congress has recourse to an official Mint. Any questions?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Let me help you out under our form of Capitalism; our federal Congress has recourse to an official Mint. Any questions?
    Yeah, here's a question... So what?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    If they are real powers, then why would anyone believe in a wiki article that may claim they are not real powers?
    You are talking in circles here. Read the relavant Wikipedia articles. I'm just stating fact here. Welfare and Unemployment benefits, nor healthcare are included as part of the constitutional general welfare clause, by SCOTUS opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    if any of the above are real powers then they must all be, real powers.
    More circles from you again. Of course there are powers specified in the welfare clause, just that Welfare and Unemployment benefits, nor healthcare are included, and it's roots are in the fact that the language use and meaning has changed since when the constitution was written.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What do you want from me?
    Acknowledgment that you're not interested in anything unless it makes the Democrat in office look bad. I want acknowledgment you're not interested in good news (because you just won't believe it) and only want bad news because it's good for your team.

    Go bother someone else with your vitriol.
    ...uhh, you replied to me first. So you go bother someone else with your vitriol.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Most of whom were not collecting benefits.

    None of whom should be collecting benefits.
    Again, you said "collecting unemployment," which means receiving benefits. The BLS numbers are not based on benefits.

    My 2.8 million is the official report on people collecting benefits. Your 20 million claim was ridiculous.
    Yes and we know how accurate the "official" govt. numbers are. My bet is that 2.8 million are collecting unemployment benefits in your state alone

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