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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    what is unclear about this?

    I am talking about lowering our tax burden through public policy choices that are market friendly
    It is too vague…too broad. There is no way to tell which policy choices you have in mind nor what you consider to be market friendly.

    That's your trouble… you keep using broad terms that are not specific enough to figure out what you mean.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    It is too vague…too broad. There is no way to tell which policy choices you have in mind nor what you consider to be market friendly.

    That's your trouble… you keep using broad terms that are not specific enough to figure out what you mean.
    I think you are merely quibbling as a diversion due to your lack of understanding of the concepts. I usually just ask for a glossary of the concepts involved.

    Market friendly could means public policies which rely more on market based metrics than on command economics in a vacuum of special pleading.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    what is unclear about this?

    I am talking about lowering our tax burden through public policy choices that are market friendly
    That position is fairly clear, yes.

    But it assumes many things:
    1. That one can define "market friendly",
    2. That one can use that definition of "market friendly" to then make public policy decisions.
    3. That said public policy choices will reduce our tax burden.
    4. That reducing our tax burden in this way has no unreasonable negative effects.


    Assuming all of these things are true, your position would be reasonable.

    I dislike assumptions, especially when based on other assumptions.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That position is fairly clear, yes.

    But it assumes many things:
    1. That one can define "market friendly",
    2. That one can use that definition of "market friendly" to then make public policy decisions.
    3. That said public policy choices will reduce our tax burden.
    4. That reducing our tax burden in this way has no unreasonable negative effects.


    Assuming all of these things are true, your position would be reasonable.

    I dislike assumptions, especially when based on other assumptions.
    What if market friendly means the opposite of command economics, for comparison and contrast?

    Market friendliness in public policies implies a positive multiplier effect as a form of "profit" from any investment in our Institution of money based markets and our form of Capitalism.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    What if market friendly means the opposite of command economics, for comparison and contrast?
    If that is how you define "market friendly", then we can use it as a hypothetical starting point.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Market friendliness in public policies implies a positive multiplier effect as a form of "profit" from any investment in our Institution of money based markets and our form of Capitalism.
    How does it imply a positive multiplier effect?
    What is a positive multiplier effect?
    How is said positive multiplier effect "a form of profit from any investment in our Institution of money-based markets and our form of Capitalism", and what does that last bit mean?

    I ask the last because although your words have meaning individually, in that sentence they seem to have none.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If that is how you define "market friendly", then we can use it as a hypothetical starting point.

    How does it imply a positive multiplier effect?
    What is a positive multiplier effect?
    How is said positive multiplier effect "a form of profit from any investment in our Institution of money-based markets and our form of Capitalism", and what does that last bit mean?

    I ask the last because although your words have meaning individually, in that sentence they seem to have none.
    Because it should take rational choice theory into consideration. Promoting the general welfare should mean investing in the general welfare to provide for the general prosperity in our republic; it should be what supply side economics should always be good for.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Because it should take rational choice theory into consideration. Promoting the general welfare should mean investing in the general welfare to provide for the general prosperity in our republic; it should be what supply side economics should always be good for.
    What are you replying too?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    What are you replying too?
    sorry, i thought you were interested in discovering sublime Truth (value) through argumentation.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    sorry, i thought you were interested in discovering sublime Truth (value) through argumentation.
    If I don't know what you're arguing about, how can I respond in order to discover this apparently highly important (and capitalized) "Truth".
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If I don't know what you're arguing about, how can I respond in order to discover this apparently highly important (and capitalized) "Truth".
    does it really matter, if diversions are usually considered fallacies?

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