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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    You are resorting to a false analogy due to a lack of recourse to a form of minimum wage that clears our poverty guidelines.
    You are resorting to an argument devoid of any understanding of human psychology. Have you ever been poor or spent any time among the poor? People don't "decide to stay poor on an at-will basis." They tell themselves (oftentimes for years), "next week/month/year I'll *really* apply myself and all will be good." Or they convince themselves that their economic situation is completely dependent on the actions of others. Or they don't think about it at all.

    Further, many of the unemployed poor are incapable of obtaining degrees. They simply don't have the mental ability. If you think that sounds unfair or harsh, then you obviously haven't spent any time among the poor. When you have an IQ of 80, you don't think to yourself, "the most rational way to allocate these supplementary funds is to alleviate myself from any exigent monetary concerns and retain the remainder as an investment in marketable skills that will advance my current socioeconomic standing."

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You are resorting to an argument devoid of any understanding of human psychology. Have you ever been poor or spent any time among the poor? People don't "decide to stay poor on an at-will basis." They tell themselves (oftentimes for years), "next week/month/year I'll *really* apply myself and all will be good." Or they convince themselves that their economic situation is completely dependent on the actions of others. Or they don't think about it at all.

    Further, many of the unemployed poor are incapable of obtaining degrees. They simply don't have the mental ability. If you think that sounds unfair or harsh, then you obviously haven't spent any time among the poor. When you have an IQ of 80, you don't think to yourself, "the most rational way to allocate these supplementary funds is to alleviate myself from any exigent monetary concerns and retain the remainder as an investment in marketable skills that will advance my current socioeconomic standing."
    I am not the one, pleading so specially. What excuse could any Person in our republic have for staying poor on an at-will basis, if they could no longer claim to be in official poverty?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You could be right to a certain extent. But the administration is not helping itself by not explaining this.
    ...they should have to explain something we've known was going to happen for decades? Would you even buy that explanation if the administration was providing it?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Under our current regime, labor is denied and disparage in recourse to their enumerated rights regarding unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States.
    English please.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    ...they should have to explain something we've known was going to happen for decades? Would you even buy that explanation if the administration was providing it?
    At this point I don't believe much that this administration says, that's true...But yes...We see that people blindly accepting that the 288K Jobs number without question shows exactly how badly we need the explanation...
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    At this point I don't believe much that this administration says, that's true...But yes...We see that people blindly accepting that the 288K Jobs number without question shows exactly how badly we need the explanation...
    What's there to question? Do you want the methodology? The margin of error? All published and can easily be found at Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) Home Page
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    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    What's there to question? Do you want the methodology? The margin of error? All published and can easily be found at Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) Home Page
    Throwing out the 288K number leaves out much....Like the 809K that dropped out of the Labor Force...That was more responsible for the UE number going down than the new jobs....
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    due to the market based metrics supplied by the laws of demand and supply under Any form of Capitalism.
    You posted the definition of capitalism according to Wikipedia due to the market based metrics supplied by the laws of demand and supply under Any form of Capitalism?

    What does that even MEAN?!?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    English please.
    It helps if you have a clue and a Cause regarding that which you want to debate.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You posted the definition of capitalism according to Wikipedia due to the market based metrics supplied by the laws of demand and supply under Any form of Capitalism?

    What does that even MEAN?!?
    It means the laws of demand and supply, apply. Any questions?

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