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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    A form of minimum wage would substitute for our current regime of minimum wage; but, through unemployment compensation that could clear our poverty guidelines.
    So when you say "a form of minimum wage" you mean replacing min wage laws with unemployment compensation that "could clear our poverty guidelines".

    What do you mean by "our poverty guidelines"?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    So when you say "a form of minimum wage" you mean replacing min wage laws with unemployment compensation that "could clear our poverty guidelines".

    What do you mean by "our poverty guidelines"?
    Our poverty guidelines are the Standard of weights and measures that define poverty in our republic. http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/14poverty.cfm

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Our poverty guidelines are the Standard of weights and measures that define poverty in our republic. http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/14poverty.cfm
    Ah, excellent.

    So how does your proposed unemployment compensation replacement for min wage laws "clear our poverty guidelines"?

    And what exactly do you mean by "clear"? "Rise above"?

    If I'm grasping your intent here, you are suggesting:

    Replacement or augmentation of current min wage/unemployment systems with an unemployment compensation system that (in at-will employment states) provides unemployment compensation which clears the poverty guidelines.

    As an example, were I unemployed in my state, I would get at least $11,670/year from your proposed idea.

    Hell I couldn't make ends meet with that. I have housing payments, car payments, student loan payments, insurance payments, etc.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Ah, excellent.

    So how does your proposed unemployment compensation replacement for min wage laws "clear our poverty guidelines"?

    And what exactly do you mean by "clear"? "Rise above"?

    If I'm grasping your intent here, you are suggesting:

    Replacement or augmentation of current min wage/unemployment systems with an unemployment compensation system that (in at-will employment states) provides unemployment compensation which clears the poverty guidelines.

    As an example, were I unemployed in my state, I would get at least $11,670/year from your proposed idea.

    Hell I couldn't make ends meet with that. I have housing payments, car payments, student loan payments, insurance payments, etc.
    It could be done through Individual Liberty on an at-will basis.

    In any case, a form of minimum wage that compensates for a lack of gainful employment could solve that form of poverty and leave Persons with no excuse for staying poor on an at-will basis.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    It could be done through Individual Liberty on an at-will basis.

    In any case, a form of minimum wage that compensates for a lack of gainful employment could solve that form of poverty and leave Persons with no excuse for staying poor on an at-will basis.
    How does your proposed solution go about eliminating this "lack of gainful employment"?

    And so far as I know, no one stays poor at will unless they get some form of unemployment or welfare - otherwise they'd soon be homeless and starving.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    How does your proposed solution go about eliminating this "lack of gainful employment"?

    And so far as I know, no one stays poor at will unless they get some form of unemployment or welfare - otherwise they'd soon be homeless and starving.
    Unemployment compensation.

    People stay poor on an at-will basis all the time. It is only official poverty that we need to solve as a civil form of obligation.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Unemployment compensation.
    So, effectively, if you're unemployed, under your proposal you are guaranteed unemployment compensation? If not, what limits do you propose?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    People stay poor on an at-will basis all the time. It is only official poverty that we need to solve as a civil form of obligation.
    They do? Without any form of welfare? We are using your previous "poverty guideline" link as baseline here, right?

    So some single guy/gal out there is willingly living on less than $11,670/year while at the same time not collecting any welfare, unemployment compensation, food stamps, etc, etc, and so forth?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So, effectively, if you're unemployed, under your proposal you are guaranteed unemployment compensation? If not, what limits do you propose?
    Yes, a form of minimum wage is a market based metric under any form of Capitalism.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    A form of minimum wage would substitute for our current regime of minimum wage; but, through unemployment compensation that could clear our poverty guidelines.
    So then, at the lower income strata, who would work?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Yes, a form of minimum wage is a market based metric under any form of Capitalism.
    At first glance your statement makes no sense.

    If I'm translating correctly, however, I suspect you're confirming my statement as an accurate summation of your position.

    Am I correct?
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