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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    The economy has regained every private
    sector job it lost in the recession of 2008 and the aftereffects of the recession. The deficit now is roughly half what it was projected to be before Obama stepped into office.

    I'm not defending anything, I'm simply stating facts. Take them as you wish.

    So you can't answer the question? Is it because you were wrong?


    There's nothing more amusing to me than a team cheerleader who has to create their own reality.
    Now you're just lying, because I know I've addressed that multiple times myself with you, as have others.
    Wow !! I wish Obama would have told us that he planned on blowing through 6 Trillion in 5 years JUST to break even.

    No net new jobs and a doubling of people on SNAP and disability with a 16 Percent increase in the poverty rate is whats actually factual.

    People clearing out if Blue States by the Millions and heading to w

    On top of that now people are having to contend with huge health insurance rate increases when they're already struggling to make ends meet.

    I thought you people " cared " for the average working man.

    No ?? Of-course you dont.

    What you care about is defending, at all cost a corrupt political ideology.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Uh huh....

    "John Crudele at the New York Post has a report titled "Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report."

    The allegation is interesting. It claims that surveyors conducting the Household Survey — which is what establishes the unemployment rate — were pressured to fake surveys in order to fill in data gaps, when it was difficult to get adequate response rates on its surveys.

    It also claims that instances of bad data being filled in is something that was going on back in 2010 — in other words, this is not a story about the infamous September 2012 jobs report. There's also no allegation here that there was pressure to manipulate the number up. The only claim is that there was pressure to fill in gaps where there was a shortfall in the number of survey respondents.

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    The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.

    Ironically, it was Labor’s demanding standards that left the door open to manipulation.

    Labor requires Census to achieve a 90 percent success rate on its interviews — meaning it needed to reach 9 out of 10 households targeted and report back on their jobs status.

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    By making up survey results — and, essentially, creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs — Buckmon’s actions could have lowered the jobless rate.

    Buckmon said he filled out surveys for people he couldn’t reach by phone or who didn’t answer their doors.

    But, Buckmon says, he was never told how to answer the questions about whether these nonexistent people were employed or not, looking for work, or have given up."



    Read more: New York Post Report On Household Survey - Business Insider
    But of course, Nixon’s henchmen did actually burgle the DNC. What Crudele has uncovered is not evidence—at all—of a political conspiracy—but a very minor story about a single Census employee filing fake household reports rather than doing the work of surveying the households.

    It turns out that the single Census employee Crudele found faking reports—Julius Buckmon—hasn’t worked for the Census since 2011, when, presumably, he was fired. That news came from CNBC’s Steve Leisman, and it moots the thesis of Crudele’s entire column.


    All he’s got after that is a single anonymous source saying the Census intentionally interfered with the election, and that doesn’t come close to cutting it, particularly since Crudele’s reporting in the rest of the piece is fatally flawed.


    To make matters worse for the Post, Buckmon was just one of 7,000 Census workers submitting reports, meaning he couldn’t have meaningfully affected the unemployment rate one way or another had he actually been working for the Census in 2012. Crudele himself even wrote that Buckmon “was never told how to answer the questions about whether these nonexistent people were employed or not, looking for work, or have given up.”
    A bogus NY Post piece sets off a frenzy : Columbia Journalism Review

    The fact you're trying to tell me 8 million jobs don't exist and NO ONE has noticed says all I really need to know about how interested you are in the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wow !! I wish Obama would have told us that he planned on blowing through 6 Trillion in 5 years JUST to break even.
    Wow! I wish you had told me you were going to do your usual tactic of moving the goalposts and posting irrelevant word forts.

    Well, I guess I already knew that was going to happen. You're fairly predictable. By the way, are you ready to admit you were wrong?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Call it what you wish. I don't trust the numbers being spun to us on a daily basis...That you believe the meme without question is also a measure of willing partisan blindness.
    Except my belief in their legitimacy doesn't hinge on the administration at the reigns. Your suspicions are based one exactly that

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    monthly jobs report. rage or rejoice.
    it is meh.

    The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more), at 3.7 million,
    changed little in March.

    Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for adult women increased to 6.2
    percent in March, and the rate for adult men decreased to 6.2 percent. The rates for
    teenagers (20.9 percent), whites (5.8 percent), blacks (12.4 percent), and Hispanics
    (7.9 percent) showed little or no change.

    If you read the actual report there is nothing to jump for joy over.

    Employment Situation Summary

    basically everything stayed the same and there was not a net gain of anything.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Really? Sheer desperation is to point out a survey worker admitted to making up many of his results to fit an agenda? How is pointing out the facts sheer desperation? It would almost seem that someone willing to ignore the facts is showing signs of partisan desperation.

    BTW thanks for the link on the unemployment apps...while they are different it also seems that our modern journalist is also different.


    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    It's the most reliable measure of labor market health we have to rely on. That you wish to cast it as propaganda is simply a product of your partisanship. The integrity of the BLS hasn't been compromised, but rather called into question out of sheer desperation.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    A bogus NY Post piece sets off a frenzy : Columbia Journalism Review

    The fact you're trying to tell me 8 million jobs don't exist and NO ONE has noticed says all I really need to know about how interested you are in the truth.
    Wow! I wish you had told me you were going to do your usual tactic of moving the goalposts and posting irrelevant word forts.

    Well, I guess I already knew that was going to happen. You're fairly predictable. By the way, are you ready to admit you were wrong?
    Yes, being honest about our economic situation is "moving the goal post ".

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Except my belief in their legitimacy doesn't hinge on the administration at the reigns. Your suspicions are based one exactly that
    i agree i think the BLS is semi-legit in their unemployment reports. the fact is this report is still no big deal nothing changed.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    So we had 320k new jobless claims? 192k new jobs. Doesn't that mean a net loss of 118,000 jobs? Yet there seems to be some euphoria among the left? Do they see this as 118k more dependent so that will vote for them or something? I'm just trying to get their euphoric rise out of continually bad news...even if the media ignores it

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    monthly jobs report. rage or rejoice.
    I believe we should merely Use socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual; with existing legal and physical infrastructure in our republic.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no need for a reelection. Obama, Bush, and Hillary Clinton will cross the Potomac and form a new triumvirate. when this happens, every job report will become good and bad at the same time, resulting in division by zero and the space time continuum shrinking back to pre-big bang size and density. then everything will begin again.

    max out your credit cards.
    This is more of that "wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey" stuff, isn't it.
    "Never before in modern history have we had a president-elect so ill-informed, ill-tempered, irrational and ill-equipped to deal with the major issues that face this country." Kareem Abdul Jabbar, 1/19/17

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