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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    You may need to read up on issue. Only absolute poverty has been solved for, mostly, due to Socialism bailing out Capitalism like usual. So, we are usually referring to relative poverty when discussing poverty in the US.
    I was talking about simple poverty, which again has not been an issue for some time.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I was talking about simple poverty, which again has not been an issue for some time.
    Absolute poverty may be simple, but only in Third World economies, not First World economies where mostly, Only relative poverty exists. Solving simple poverty in more developed economies usually involves simplification of public policies and upgrades in infrastructure.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Solving simple poverty in more developed economies usually involves simplification of public policies and upgrades in infrastructure.
    If by "simplification of public policies" you mean reducing or eliminating much of the regulatory perplexity that exists in this country, then carry on.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Cool. I believe our elected representatives to government should not have to be burdened with anything more complicated than a form of minimum wage that simply compensates labor for being unemployed, in any at-will employment jurisdiction.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Let's assume we can end our War on Poverty by solving simple poverty in a market friendly manner and lower our Tax burden as a result.
    Why are you refusing to define your terms? First you haven't established that there is a war on poverty, then, we can't say if simple poverty can or should be solved without knowing what you mean, we can't know if if a market friendly is workable without knowing what is market friendly, etc

    Really, we could have moved past this if you would even half try to be half reasonable.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why are you refusing to define your terms? First you haven't established that there is a war on poverty, then, we can't say if simple poverty can or should be solved without knowing what you mean, we can't know if if a market friendly is workable without knowing what is market friendly, etc

    Really, we could have moved past this if you would even half try to be half reasonable.
    Sorry about that. I thought you had some understanding of the concepts involved.

    Here is a background on our Warfare-State, War on Poverty:

    The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States President Lyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964. This legislation was proposed by Johnson in response to a national poverty rate of around nineteen percent. The speech led the United States Congress to pass the Economic Opportunity Act, which established the Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO) to administer the local application of federal funds targeted against poverty.

    As a part of the Great Society, Johnson believed in expanding the government's role in education and health care as poverty reduction strategies.[1] These policies can also be seen as a continuation of Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, which ran from 1933 to 1935, and the Four Freedoms of 1941.

    Source: War on Poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Here is some info, in a nutshell:

    Fifty years ago, President Lyndon Johnson declared war on poverty. Since then, Washington has created dozens of programs and spent trillions of dollars. But few people have stopped to ask, “Are they working?”

    In “The War on Poverty: 50 Years Later,” the House Budget Committee majority staff starts to answer that question.

    There are at least 92 federal programs designed to help lower-income Americans. For instance, there are dozens of education and job-training programs, 17 different food-aid programs, and over 20 housing programs. The federal government spent $799 billion on these programs in fiscal year 2012.

    Source: The War on Poverty: 50 Years Later | Budget.House.Gov
    In any case, it is about simplification of our already existing public policies by using Socialism to bailout Capitalism, with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Sorry about that. I thought you had some understanding of the concepts involved.

    Here is a background on our Warfare-State, War on Poverty:



    Here is some info, in a nutshell:



    In any case, it is about simplification of our already existing public policies by using Socialism to bailout Capitalism, with existing legal and physical infrastructure.
    Ok, I am familiar with Johnson's declaration of "War on Poverty," but you seemed to be talking about it as as a single thing…a cohesive program. Which, of course, it's not.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Let's just assume that simple poverty can be solved in a market friendly manner, for now. Why do you believe actually solving simple poverty would not be a better promotion of the general welfare than waging an exorbitantly expensive, War on Poverty for around a generation?
    I don't know what the hell "simple poverty" is.

    How can you ask me to make a decision on whether to support solving it or not when you haven't explained what it is, yet?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Ok, I am familiar with Johnson's declaration of "War on Poverty," but you seemed to be talking about it as as a single thing…a cohesive program. Which, of course, it's not.
    I know. It is why I believe supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost.

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