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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why don't you answer my direct question?
    Ok. Let's cut to the chase. Solving simple poverty is a function of government that should be solved by promoting and providing for the general welfare in such a manner that supply side economics supplies us with better governance at lower cost.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Ok. Let's cut to the chase. Solving simple poverty is a function of government that should be solved by promoting and providing for the general welfare in such a manner that supply side economics supplies us with better governance at lower cost.
    Show me in Article 1 Section 8 where that specific power is....And don't give me the general welfare crap, that is simply dodging the question...In Article 1 Section 8 there are 17 specific powers that start out with the word "To"...Show me where is says "To solve simple poverty"....
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Show me in Article 1 Section 8 where that specific power is....And don't give me the general welfare crap, that is simply dodging the question...In Article 1 Section 8 there are 17 specific powers that start out with the word "To"...Show me where is says "To solve simple poverty"....
    Promoting the general welfare implies it; supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost.

    In any Case, since the General social Power to provide for the general welfare is in Article 1, Section 8, you have to advance and support a position that claims solving simple poverty would not promote the general welfare.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    Promoting the general welfare implies it; supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost.
    OMG you are exhausting....Just answer the question....
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    OMG you are exhausting....Just answer the question....
    Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare.
    You may believe that, but that is not in the constitution simply because you want it to be...Also, it was not the intent of the founders of this country in constructing the constitution either...

    James Madison stated that the “general welfare” clause was not intended to give Congress an open hand “to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare.” If by the “general welfare,” the Founding Fathers had meant any and all social, economic, or educational programs Congress wanted to create, there would have been no reason to list specific powers of Congress such as establishing courts and maintaining the armed forces. Those powers would simply have been included in one all-encompassing phrase, to “promote the general welfare.”
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You may believe that, but that is not in the constitution simply because you want it to be...Also, it was not the intent of the founders of this country in constructing the constitution either...

    James Madison stated that the “general welfare” clause was not intended to give Congress an open hand “to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare.” If by the “general welfare,” the Founding Fathers had meant any and all social, economic, or educational programs Congress wanted to create, there would have been no reason to list specific powers of Congress such as establishing courts and maintaining the armed forces. Those powers would simply have been included in one all-encompassing phrase, to “promote the general welfare.”
    You have to prove that solving simple poverty does not promote the general welfare. I merely claim we can simplify our public policies so that supply side economics may supply us with better governance at lower cost.

    Solving simple poverty with existing infrastructure in our republic can accomplish that End, in any at-will employment jurisdiction.

    What excuse could any Person have for staying poor on an at-will basis, if they can no longer claim to be in official poverty?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    You have to prove that solving simple poverty does not promote the general welfare. I merely claim we can simplify our public policies so that supply side economics may supply us with better governance at lower cost.

    Solving simple poverty with existing infrastructure in our republic can accomplish that End, in any at-will employment jurisdiction.

    What excuse could any Person have for staying poor on an at-will basis, if they can no longer claim to be in official poverty?
    No sir, the claim that it does is your claim. Prove it.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No sir, the claim that it does is your claim. Prove it.
    We could end our exorbitantly expensive, War on Poverty with a welfare-State but not a warfare-State, by merely having enough Faith in executing our own laws, and, not Only that, but the Infrastructure is already in place in our republic as well.

    We could be lowering our Tax burden merely by cost shifting from a warfare-State to a welfare-State, like our Founding Fathers said so, in Article 6.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Ok. Let's cut to the chase. Solving simple poverty is a function of government that should be solved by promoting and providing for the general welfare in such a manner that supply side economics supplies us with better governance at lower cost.
    The federal gov hasn't been able to do that thus far, and frankly given the vast amounts of waste and corruption involved I doubt they ever will be able to.

    They might tell us they have though.
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