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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Then why would you criticize him for jobs?

    You just said he has no control over private sector jobs and employment. You're contradicting yourself.

    Either his policies have led us to regain every private sector job lost since the recession began or he has nothing to do with private sector jobs. Which is it?

    I didn't say anything about 2009, I simply noted how every private sector job lost has now been regained.
    Every PRIVATE sector job. I've said that every time in this thread and have sourced it twice. I really wish people would pay closer attention.
    The point is he doesn't do the hiring or firing for companies but his policies affect company profitability which influences hiring and firing. We us the most incompetent President with zero leadership skills this country has ever elected and unfortunately far too many view social issues more importantly than fiscal issues and voted with their heart instead of their brain.

    I am sorry if you think recovering all the lost jobs over 7 years after the beginning of the recession and 5 years after the end of the recession is a success. We have a growing population and should have a growing labor force but the labor force today isn't growing in relationship to the population and that reality is ignored. Businesses aren't going to hire people and grow at the rate required to put people back to work until they truly understand the costs of Obama's ACA and whether or not he is going to continue to punish producers by raising taxes. That is common sense, something liberals don't seem to have

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    The point is he doesn't do the hiring or firing for companies but his policies affect company profitability which influences hiring and firing.
    And they've been hiring, to the point we've regained every private sector job lost. So his policies have worked.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    And they've been hiring, to the point we've regained every private sector job lost. So his policies have worked.
    We had 115.9 million private sector employees in December 2007 and you call it a success having 116.0 million private sector jobs today, almost 7 years later? Why do people like you have such low standards and expectations? Population alone should require more people than that in the private sector

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    We had 115.9 million private sector employees in December 2007 and you call it a success having 116.0 million private sector jobs today, almost 7 years later?
    But Obama didn't take office in December of 2007, he took office in January of 2009. And his policies didn't begin to take affect until a few months after, while the effects of the recession were still climbing.

    You're being very careless with your timetables. It's been roughly 4 years since the negative effects of the recession started to turn the other way and, in a country with a divided legislative branch and considering how many jobs were lost, I'd say under the circumstances 4 years isn't too bad, especially since it's still trending in the right direction.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    But Obama didn't take office in December of 2007, he took office in January of 2009. And his policies didn't begin to take affect until a few months after, while the effects of the recession were still climbing.

    You're being very careless with your timetables. It's been roughly 4 years since the negative effects of the recession started to turn the other way and, in a country with a divided legislative branch and considering how many jobs were lost, I'd say under the circumstances 4 years isn't too bad, especially since it's still trending in the right direction.
    No, he was hired to return us to pre recession levels and hasn't done that. It makes no sense to have 115.9 million in the private sector before the recession began, have a growing population, implement a 842 billion stimulus program that was signed in February 2009 and have 116 million people in the private sector today. What we have today are record numbers of Discouraged workers, a stagnant economy, high unemployment, and 6.7 trillion added to the debt. That apparently is good enough for you.

    Your time table is wrong, the recession ended in June 2009 so we were ending the recession when Obama took office. Leadership is about taking responsibility and implementing policies that benefit the American economy, Obama did no such thing. Why do you have such low standards?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, he was hired to return us to pre recession levels and hasn't done that.
    He could if he expanded government jobs like Bush did. Are you wanting a bigger government?

    Your time table is wrong, the recession ended in June 2009
    But I didn't say the end of the recession, I specifically said "since the negative effects of the recession started to turn the other way". It's things like this which prove to me you're not interested in any real debate, just partisan responses.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    He could if he expanded government jobs like Bush did. Are you wanting a bigger government?

    But I didn't say the end of the recession, I specifically said "since the negative effects of the recession started to turn the other way". It's things like this which prove to me you're not interested in any real debate, just partisan responses.
    With a booming economy, growing population you need more govt. jobs including jobs in the military after we were attacked.

    The negative impacts of the recession were prolonged by having a President who lacked any leadership skills or the ability to get things done through others. Far too many like you don't seem to understand leadership or their roles. Want to see good leadership, look at the Reagan numbers two years after the end of a recession, a recession by all economic standards was much worse than this one and was compounded by high inflation, high unemployment thus a high misery index. That recession impacted EVERY American which is unlike this one.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    With a booming economy, growing population you need more govt. jobs including jobs in the military after we were attacked.
    And if those government jobs returned under Obama, we'd have a lot more jobs. Are you saying you want more government jobs?

    The negative impacts of the recession were prolonged by having a President who lacked any leadership skills or the ability to get things done through others.
    Useless partisanship that ignores the reality of this country.

    Far too many like you don't seem to understand leadership or their roles.
    No, people like me understand the machine is bigger than any individual cog. We know money talks and if there's money in something, there will be a politician advocating it. For years, there was great money for Republicans to oppose Obama. There still is, though the strategy cost them in the 2012 elections. There's money in keeping an overinflated defense budget, but not as much money in government contracts to rebuild infrastructure. That's why we still have an incredibly large military and lagging infrastructure.

    It has nothing to do with Obama. You could have put McCain or Kerry or Romney in the same position and very little would have changed, so long as there was a divided Congress and unlimited financial contributions. People like me know this. People like you probably know it as well, but that reality gets in the way of useless political attacks.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    And if those government jobs returned under Obama, we'd have a lot more jobs. Are you saying you want more government jobs?

    The negative impacts of the recession were prolonged by having a President who lacked any leadership skills or the ability to get things done through others.Useless partisanship that ignores the reality of this country.

    No, people like me understand the machine is bigger than any individual cog. We know money talks and if there's money in something, there will be a politician advocating it. For years, there was great money for Republicans to oppose Obama. There still is, though the strategy cost them in the 2012 elections. There's money in keeping an overinflated defense budget, but not as much money in government contracts to rebuild infrastructure. That's why we still have an incredibly large military and lagging infrastructure.

    It has nothing to do with Obama. You could have put McCain or Kerry or Romney in the same position and very little would have changed, so long as there was a divided Congress and unlimited financial contributions. People like me know this. People like you probably know it as well, but that reality gets in the way of useless political attacks.
    No, I want the privates sector job growth we saw under Reagan after a worse recession, 15 million

    Sorry, but you have no concept as to the role of the govt. and the machine you are spouting about. You have no idea what would have happened with McCain, I do not believe McCain would have promoted class warfare and redistribution of wealth neither of which promotes the private sector. You buy what you are told and all that does is promote massive govt. growth, high debt, and higher debt service. Infrastructure spending is paid for everytime you fill up your car or buy petroleum products or cars. Obama promoted infrastructure spending then sent money for shovel ready jobs to bail out union contracts. That stimulus didn't work so what did he do, promoted Obamacare. Does that make sense to you

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, I want the privates sector job growth we saw under Reagan after a worse recession, 15 million
    I want a smaller military payout, no wars and higher taxes. Different situations are different.

    Sorry, but you have no concept as to the role of the govt.
    But I do. You just won't accept it because you won't accept any narrative which doesn't paint the Democrat is a bad light. You're playing team politics.

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