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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Really struck a nerve their huh?
    Not "really," and actually not at all.

    >>The reason most people use the CPS number is probably because they don't know any better.

    An ironic statement, given that YOU are using the CPS number

    >>I guarantee you the average American has no idea there is a CPS and a CES number.

    Yes, and even fewer of them are confused about which is which.

    >>They just read the headline and sop it up.

    Where did you read we lost 73K jobs in April? I know right-wing sites love to quote from that commie rag, the NYT, when it serves their purposes. Perhaps you came across a reference to It’s a Mistake to Pretend This Jobs Report Tells a Consistent Story. As it happens, I agree with the author's observation that:

    The best approach is to take all the evidence — both the household and business survey, as well as multiple months of data — and use it all to tell the most sensible story we can, based on the evidence.

    I've made the same point myself many times. But I'd say it's important to note the article's conclusion:

    The labor market appears to be gaining strength. But there are enough conflicting signals that we will need more months of data before we can be sure.

    All I did was cite the number that nearly everyone uses from the monthly report: the CES figure. Now that I've calmed from the rage you sent me into by citing the April CPS figure, let me ask you a question: Were you excited to see that we added 476K jobs in March? Thrilled by the addition of 958K in November? Geez, ya musta run out and put an Obama sticker on yer bumper.

    >>you are obviously bias.

    Biased. Well, if I am, then so is just about everyone else. I admire yer willingness to stand alone.

    >>It says - ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS - that there were 73,000 less Americans employed in April then there were in March.there were 73,000 less Americans employed in April then there were in March

    "Fewer," not less. People are discrete units.

    As I noted earlier, that's one of the things BLS said. Did you click on the link I put up to the CES in #1140? Did you notice that BLS publishes CES data?

    Fwiw, you don't need to provide links to CPS results for me and help me find the number yer citing. I have the reports on my work computer. I read the reports every month the day they come out. It's been part of my job for the past fifteen years.

    >>you are apparently extremely bias and obviously will try and spin the numbers. I simply posted accurate numbers.

    I never said they were inaccurate. They are, however, misleading in this context. It's obvious the economy added jobs in April. It's of course impossible to be sure exactly how many. One-month sales figures offer little guidance for judging trends. The stock market is a very poor indicator of where the economy is headed. And as I noted, the Dow average was up for the year at the close on Tuesday.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Mmi I address what you posted when I get off the road in a couple of days.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Mmi I address what you posted when I get off the road in a couple of days.
    Oh, it can wait. Be safe, old man. ☺

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Ouch! Looks like I overwrote one my posts. Luckily it was a snippet and not one of my great American novels. Here is is again, for prosperity's sake:

    I encourage you guys to read every word of this very brief note, so I won't quote from it: It Wasn't Fannie, Freddie, or the CRA.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No. Substandard results can be traced back to Socialist legislation.

    Look anywhere there is failure in the world and it is due to Socialism.

    PIIGS in Europe, our housing market debacle, the fall of the Iron Curtain... The Pilgrims, The ancient Persians... the history is long and clear. One simply has to stop lying to oneself, or escape the shackles of ignorance and become a well-rounded, informed citizen.

    Socialist legislation is the cause of almost all our evils. Sounds nice, but it farks society every time. It's merely a matter of time.

    The Carter, Clinton, Cuomo, Obama & ACORN housing abortion took less than 30-years, and it was Clinton, Cuomo, Obama & ACORN that put booster rockets on the failure. Of course, ignorants and bitter clingers... hyper-partisans fail to recognize the obvious... and that only adds to our problems.
    zimmer,

    i understand that you're a passionate Republican. i'm a left leaning independent who doesn't much GAF. when you get into political discussions, you mostly post cartoonish hyperpartisan bumpersticker slogans. given this, i'm just not interested in having a political discussion with you unless you're willing to stop doing that and just talk.

    i will talk with you about anything else, though. i don't dislike you at all; i just really dislike the inflammatory hyperpartisan stuff. i spent much of the 2000s on a couple right wing partisan purity boards, and i just got burned out on it.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    zimmer,

    i understand that you're a passionate Republican. i'm a left leaning independent who doesn't much GAF. when you get into political discussions, you mostly post cartoonish hyperpartisan bumpersticker slogans. given this, i'm just not interested in having a political discussion with you unless you're willing to stop doing that and just talk.
    I'm a recovered Demokrat, and I'm not surprised you have no interest in a political discussion that is direct.... bare knuckles. Welcome to the real world.

    Obama and his idiots like to stick their knuckles deep, and frankly... people who are ignorant are the reason why we have this mess and the mess created by decades of socialist legislation on our hands. This is not time to be polite. He's certainly not. He's hell bent on "fundamentally changing America".

    You see, I spend my valuable time here trying to jolt open a few minds. You don't like being jolted... OK... but... I'll stick by my previous posts.

    Hopefully in some lonely hours of contemplation or research, you'll realize despite my directness... I'm right. I know I didn't like finding out what I believed was wrong... but that is what learning is about. Sometimes it's uncomfortable.

    i will talk with you about anything else, though. i don't dislike you at all; i just really dislike the inflammatory hyperpartisan stuff. i spent much of the 2000s on a couple right wing partisan purity boards, and i just got burned out on it.
    Once again, the TRUTH is not hyper-partisan.

    I don't have a problem with you... and I NEVER take shots personally (unless it comes wrapped in a racist blanket) but I prefer to write short... direct... and readily readable posts. People's eyes glaze over congested or long posts.

    Prost.
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    Zimmer: I was once a Lib too.
    What happened?
    I grew up. That's what happened.

    I grew up, traveled the world, met a lot of interesting people, and did a lot of reading.

    After about a decade... I was cured. I left the Left.

    Moral of the story: There is hope for you.
    The Clintons are what happens...
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    Ouch! Looks like I overwrote one my posts. Luckily it was a snippet and not one of my great American novels. Here is is again, for prosperity's sake:

    I encourage you guys to read every word of this very brief note, so I won't quote from it: It Wasn't Fannie, Freddie, or the CRA.
    No... it wasn't the Demokrat party and their idiotic schemes once again. ROTFLOL...

    Start with the folly of the financiers.

    The years before the crisis saw a flood of irresponsible mortgage lending in America.

    Loans were doled out to “subprime” borrowers with poor credit histories who struggled to repay them.

    These risky mortgages were passed on to financial engineers at the big banks, who turned them into supposedly low-risk securities by putting large numbers of them together in pools. Pooling works when the risks of each loan are uncorrelated.

    The big banks argued that the property markets in different American cities would rise and fall independently of one another.

    But this proved wrong. Starting in 2006, America suffered a nationwide house-price slump.

    The origins of the financial crisis: Crash course | The Economist
    Boom goes the dynamite!
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I grew up. That's what happened.
    Is that what you call it?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    earning your world view is so very wrong isn't fun. Being held up as an example of ignorance even less so.
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Ignorance has massive costs, and folks like Helix, are a large part of the problem. I would say folks like Helix ARE the problem, especially if they vote. Either Helix is ignorant of the truth, or choses to ignore it.

    Either way... big, big problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    One simply has to stop lying to oneself, or escape the shackles of ignorance and become a well-rounded, informed citizen. Of course, ignorants and bitter clingers... hyper-partisans fail to recognize the obvious... and that only adds to our problems.
    If you don't think yer comments are partisan, you oughta look the word up in the dictionary. The word I'd use is arrogant. That is, if I were being polite.

    Yer favourite descriptor for yer political opponents seems to be "ignorant." You've had a lot to say here about the CRA. My guess is you wouldn't recognize it if you tripped over it. Does that mean yer ignorant?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    Is that what you call it?
    It's the fact Jack. Travel, growing up, meeting people who ran businesses... and reading. Maturing as a person.

    If you don't think yer comments are partisan, you oughta look the word up in the dictionary.
    I've never denied I am a partisan, but an educated one. An open minded one. One who used to be on the other side of the isle. I

    know the Left and their lies. Why would I (or anyone) want to be associated with failure and the lies and deceits used to sell these failures and pervert society?

    The word I'd use is arrogant. That is, if I were being polite.
    You're not being polite? ROTFLOL...

    Yer favourite descriptor for yer political opponents seems to be "ignorant."
    Ignorance abounds and we are paying the price for it. "Spreading the wealth around" is not a winning economic system.

    You've had a lot to say here about the CRA. My guess is you wouldn't recognize it if you tripped over it. Does that mean yer ignorant?
    I've posted what the politicians stated about it. Obama... Clinton... Cuomo. Barney Frank oughta be in there somewhere too. Cuomo/Clinton admitted the coming failures, but like most LIb schemes could never imagine how badly their forecasts would be or the massive collapse that would ensue.
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