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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    May's Jobs' numbers will not be out until the first Friday in June thus there are no reported jobs created, lost, or unemployment rate for May yet
    i suppose i was unclear.

    the thread you guys are currently fistfighing in was posted at the beginning of April. there is a new thread that was posted at the beginning of May, which could use some hyperpartisan fistfighting, too. it's even more ripe for conflict, because the unemployment rate went down in this report. you should definitely go to that thread and explain how the unemployment rate dropping is actually a horrifyingly awful thing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ops-6-3-a.html

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    i suppose i was unclear.

    the thread you guys are currently fistfighing in was posted at the beginning of April. there is a new thread that was posted at the beginning of May, which could use some hyperpartisan fistfighting, too. it's even more ripe for conflict, because the unemployment rate went down in this report. you should definitely go to that thread and explain how the unemployment rate dropping is actually a horrifyingly awful thing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ops-6-3-a.html
    You are right, we all know that 6.3% unemployment signifies a booming economy. Doesn't matter that there still are over a million fewer people working today than when the recession began and 800,000 dropped out of the labor force in April.

    We all know those are good numbers and we should be doing handstands plus creating a petition to keep Obama for life. He is by far the best Community Agitator we have ever had in the WH and his economic policies have been a booming success as evidenced by the numbers. Just think if he can get more and more people to drop out of the labor force we could have unemployment under 5%?

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    monthly jobs report. rage or rejoice.
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    Don't know why anyone would rage; more jobs is a good thing.
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    Zimmer,

    Just wanted to let you know that this is the April thread. There's a May jobs report thread. It is lacking the hyperpartisan zeal of the April thread, so perhaps you can remedy that.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ops-6-3-a.html
    ROTFLMFAO... The sad thing is you are serious.

    Tell you what... listen to Demokrats and how they will not mention the word "recovery".

    There isn't one. 92 million are without jobs. Nobody believes the bull about a recovery. Obama's propagandists have cried that wolf way too often. It's simply not believable... if it was... Obama and Demokrats would be out there every day pounding it. Instead they're running away from the economy. Because it sucks.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    In light of the content of yer post, that handed me the laugh I can use to start the AM. Thanks!

    >>pollsters told their party not to use the word "recovery" in their coming election

    Seems to have worked — we won OH and PA easily. Guess we run better campaigns. ☺
    Of course failure is funny for Demokrats. It seems misery is what makes Demokrats laugh. I guess it's intentions, not results that count.

    PS. Not mentioning "recovery" was from Demokrat pollsters... because it is clear people know the cabal of Marxists in control is full of ****, and their propagandists are simply unbelievable. Hence the clarification for the idiot Demokrats who can't figure it out for themselves.

    Funny, isn't it?
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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    You are right, we all know that 6.3% unemployment signifies a booming economy. Doesn't matter that there still are over a million fewer people working today than when the recession began and 800,000 dropped out of the labor force in April.

    We all know those are good numbers and we should be doing handstands plus creating a petition to keep Obama for life. He is by far the best Community Agitator we have ever had in the WH and his economic policies have been a booming success as evidenced by the numbers. Just think if he can get more and more people to drop out of the labor force we could have unemployment under 5%?
    i'm sensing that you don't like the president. i'm also sensing that had Romney won, your post would be quite different, or maybe you would have just not posted anything in the thread.

    that's why i try to post these threads every month. see, back in the 2000s, the dems laid into Bush even when the economy wasn't horrifyingly awful. now, they ended up being right; all of the stupid wall street gambling really did destroy the economy, but they didn't really know that was going to happen. they just wanted to be partisan hacks. at the time, i was a libertarian, and their constantly rooting for the economy to fail really ****ing annoyed me. now it's the right's turn.

    i don't like partisan hacks. so, what i do is i post an economic thread mostly for posterity. then when your guy is in charge and you shill for him, i can link back to a similar month and point out hyperpartisan nonsense and hypocrisy. same thing for the far left.

    anyway, make sure and visit the May thread.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    i'm sensing that you don't like the president. i'm also sensing that had Romney won, your post would be quite different, or maybe you would have just not posted anything in the thread.

    that's why i try to post these threads every month. see, back in the 2000s, the dems laid into Bush even when the economy wasn't horrifyingly awful. now, they ended up being right; all of the stupid wall street gambling really did destroy the economy, but they didn't really know that was going to happen. they just wanted to be partisan hacks. at the time, i was a libertarian, and their constantly rooting for the economy to fail really ****ing annoyed me. now it's the right's turn.

    i don't like partisan hacks. so, what i do is i post an economic thread mostly for posterity. then when your guy is in charge and you shill for him, i can link back to a similar month and point out hyperpartisan nonsense and hypocrisy. same thing for the far left.

    anyway, make sure and visit the May thread.
    Gee, imagine that, results mattering? Why wouldn't I like this President? If Romney was President there is no question in my mind that we wouldn't have the results we have today provided there wasn't a Democrat Congress.

    You don't seem to understand what a partisan hack is. I grew up a Democrat, spent over half my voting life voting for Democrats but grew out of it. Maybe one of these days others here will do the same thing. Wonder what it is about results that they don't understand.

    Oh yes, by the way, Democrats in control of Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 did indeed make their predictions right and to this day continue to blame Bush ignoring their own incompetent in the WH and their own incompetent class warfare economic policies

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    Gee, imagine that, results mattering? Why wouldn't I like this President? If Romney was President there is no question in my mind that we wouldn't have the results we have today provided there wasn't a Democrat Congress.

    You don't seem to understand what a partisan hack is. I grew up a Democrat, spent over half my voting life voting for Democrats but grew out of it. Maybe one of these days others here will do the same thing. Wonder what it is about results that they don't understand.

    Oh yes, by the way, Democrats in control of Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 did indeed make their predictions right and to this day continue to blame Bush ignoring their own incompetent in the WH and their own incompetent class warfare economic policies
    i don't really care about the teamsports angle of it. i just want the economy to get better so that when i have kids, they won't have to just scrape by and get treated like worthless cogs in a machine.

    Republicans sometimes have some good ideas, but lately, at least in my area, they have been doing a bunch of regressive tax nonsense, cutting education because they want to kill public schools and privatize them, and penny pinching on infrastructure. the roads since the Republicans established complete control in the state have become the worst i've seen in my entire life. i mean like "these roads should really be closed or returned to gravel" bad. they've made me so mad that it's becoming increasingly difficult to consider them for my vote at any level. i still do, though, because i am not a hack, and i truly want the best candidate to win. however, you guys have nearly completely lost me.

    now they're talking about more tax cuts. sorry, i just don't believe that the supply side only approach is the best solution for every situation.

    the Democrats are nearly equally worthless on economics. where's that plan? it's obvious that we need more demand side. explain that to voters, and maybe you'll get somewhere. the only good part about the Democrats is that they are decent on current civil rights issues, and they're a lot less willing to get us involved in a bunch of wars. Obama's current nonsense with Putin is making me question that more, though. who gives a **** about that idiot? jobs, infrastructure, energy.

    one more time :

    jobs, infrastructure, and energy. do those things.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't really care about the teamsports angle of it. i just want the economy to get better so that when i have kids, they won't have to just scrape by and get treated like worthless cogs in a machine.

    Republicans sometimes have some good ideas, but lately, at least in my area, they have been doing a bunch of regressive tax nonsense, cutting education because they want to kill public schools and privatize them, and penny pinching on infrastructure. the roads since the Republicans established complete control in the state have become the worst i've seen in my entire life. i mean like "these roads should really be closed or returned to gravel" bad. they've made me so mad that it's becoming increasingly difficult to consider them for my vote at any level. i still do, though, because i am not a hack, and i truly want the best candidate to win. however, you guys have nearly completely lost me.

    now they're talking about more tax cuts. sorry, i just don't believe that the supply side only approach is the best solution for every situation.

    the Democrats are nearly equally worthless on economics. where's that plan? it's obvious that we need more demand side. explain that to voters, and maybe you'll get somewhere. the only good part about the Democrats is that they are decent on current civil rights issues, and they're a lot less willing to get us involved in a bunch of wars. Obama's current nonsense with Putin is making me question that more, though. who gives a **** about that idiot? jobs, infrastructure, energy.

    one more time :

    jobs, infrastructure, and energy. do those things.
    I have no idea what state you live in but I always found it was easier change state and local government than Federal govt. employees. Our Founders got it right, power belongs closer to the people and not at the federal level. All people want do is place blame and do nothing about it. Get involved in local politics. Find out where your tax dollars are going and what the taxes are supposed to fund. Placing blame is a lot easier than accepting responsibility.

    Schools are funded by state and local taxes administered by people in the community. You have a problem with the schools blame the people actually responsible. Roads are paid for by use taxes, you don't like the roads and infrastructure blame those involved in spending that money and demand accountability.

    Seems bitching is what far too many do instead of taking action. They bitch and then give more power to a federal bureaucrat who could care about the problems in your community.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

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    I have no idea what state you live in but I always found it was easier change state and local government than Federal govt. employees. Our Founders got it right, power belongs closer to the people and not at the federal level. All people want do is place blame and do nothing about it. Get involved in local politics. Find out where your tax dollars are going and what the taxes are supposed to fund. Placing blame is a lot easier than accepting responsibility.

    Schools are funded by state and local taxes administered by people in the community. You have a problem with the schools blame the people actually responsible. Roads are paid for by use taxes, you don't like the roads and infrastructure blame those involved in spending that money and demand accountability.

    Seems bitching is what far too many do instead of taking action. They bitch and then give more power to a federal bureaucrat who could care about the problems in your community.
    mine sure don't. they spend most of their time indulging their trickle down fantasies, trying to choke public schools to death, union busting, or getting into stupid dick measuring contests with foreign dictators. it's sad.

    jobs. infrastructure. energy. maybe if i type it enough times, the NSA will pick it up and send the idea up the pipeline.

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    Re: Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    I stand corrected. The number for April was +288,000, with upward revisions for March and Feb of +11,000 and +25,000, respectively.

    The reports can be found at the same URL every month: The Employment Situation. I've read every one for the past fifteen years — it's part of my job.

    >>Two, 'largely, weather related' can mean almost anything. More then half of the U.S. population is not even affected by snow. The bad GDP numbers were partially affected by the weather, not caused exclusively by the weather.

    As you yerself noted, I said "largely," not "exclusively."

    >>Three, the consumer spending numbers are for April...and have little/nothing to do with the bad winter weather.

    The figure you gave is for retail sales, not consumer spending. (They are obviously related; retail sales account for about a third of consumer spending.) The retail sales number for March was a very strong 1.5%.

    Why do you say that consumer spending is unrelated to weather?

    Personal consumption expenditures (PCE) increased by 0.9% in March and by 0.5% in Feb. (Personal Income and Outlays — BEA) The figure for April will be published June 2nd.

    >>The economy as of April, sucks.

    Sorry you feel that way.
    One...check the following link...

    Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

    Fourth line down...end of line...73,000 jobs lost.

    The 288,000 jobs gained is a totally different accumulative process. I choose mine as there are too many assumptions in the 288,000 model for my taste.

    You don't agree...I don't much care.


    Two...I meant retail sales not consumer spending...my mistake.


    As I said before...GDP up only 0.1%, 73,000 jobs lost last month, retail spending up only 0.1% for April.


    Anyone who says that is not an economy that is stalling is clueless or in denial, IMO.

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