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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    The main problem here is that China actually has legitimate territorial claims in all of these disputes. In fact, from what I have read, China's claims to the South China Sea islands are stronger than any other claims. The Philippines, in particular, seems to be opportunistic and only jumped in with a claim after oil was discovered. China had been laying claim well before oil even became a major resource. Vietnam is the only country with a well-supported claim as I understand it. Obviously, China's claim to Taiwan has widespread international recognition. East China Sea is more shaky, but the claims from China are not baseless. It is not really the same situation that you had with Crimea, where Russia clearly and unequivocally recognized Ukraine's sovereignty over Crimea along with the rest of the international community.
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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    I love these U.S. "warnings" to Russia, and now CHINA! Let me make this clear. China could bomb Pearl Harbor and Obama would go to the U.N. and other "international bodies" to resolve the issue. I think you can give a rest with all the warnings. It's just making Obama(and by extension us) look foolish at this point.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I love these U.S. "warnings" to Russia, and now CHINA! Let me make this clear. China could bomb Pearl Harbor and Obama would go to the U.N. and other "international bodies" to resolve the issue. I think you can give a rest with all the warnings. It's just making Obama(and by extension us) look foolish at this point.
    China wouldn't need to bomb anything!

    They have the capability to attack using technologically advanced cyber weapons.

    Just imagine what would happen if they hacked into your nuclear defense systems?

    You could end up blowing yourselves up!

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's another reason why it was a bad idea to have been over aggressive in the UKraine with regards to Yanukovych rejecting the EU deal. That's something we should have left for the Europeans to do. It appears that we have opened a can of worms. Do we really want to go to war with China too over some small islands that the Japanese claim? It's time for a serious rethink of our foreign policy.

    U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia
    The United States is too valuable to China so that would never happen - not to mention China and Russia aren't exactly "buddies" either.

    If Russia was to attack the US China would beat Russia into snot bubbles..

    Russia is **** to China and China understands that Russia is being an aggressor at this point in time.

    Obama is an epic idiot - If I was in his shoes I would tell China to deal with their little lap dog.

    And if worst came to worst I would tell Putin that I would destroy his resources if he did not stop the aggression. Who in the hell would back Putin anyways? North Korea?

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I love these U.S. "warnings" to Russia, and now CHINA! Let me make this clear. China could bomb Pearl Harbor and Obama would go to the U.N. and other "international bodies" to resolve the issue. I think you can give a rest with all the warnings. It's just making Obama(and by extension us) look foolish at this point.
    Obama is so ****ing dumb - he doesn't even realize that China is on our side.

    China would be North Korea if it wasn't for the United States so I have no idea why Obama being the mental reject he is is talking **** to China.

    Did it ever dawn on the idiot Obama that Chinas economy relies on the US economy?

    Probably not because Obama is too busy dealing with social issues rather than geopolitical issues.

    Obama is an idiot community organizer - that's all he will ever be. He doesn't know a damn thing about geopolitics.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's another reason why it was a bad idea to have been over aggressive in the UKraine with regards to Yanukovych rejecting the EU deal. That's something we should have left for the Europeans to do. It appears that we have opened a can of worms. Do we really want to go to war with China too over some small islands that the Japanese claim? It's time for a serious rethink of our foreign policy.

    U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia
    Actually the US did leave the Crimea issue to the EU and more or less only supported its allies. It only issued warnings to back up the Europeans in spite of the flawed and stumbling approach they had taken.
    Mumbled threats are something the world has come to expect from The Man That Can and is paying increasingly less attention to. That is one of the problems we are seeing. Obama is not taken all together seriously, so US backing did not suffice to neutralize the European blunder.

    In Asia this could easily cause disaster.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually the US did leave the Crimea issue to the EU and more or less only supported its allies. It only issued warnings to back up the Europeans in spite of the flawed and stumbling approach they had taken.
    Mumbled threats are something the world has come to expect from The Man That Can and is paying increasingly less attention to. That is one of the problems we are seeing. Obama is not taken all together seriously, so US backing did not suffice to neutralize the European blunder.

    In Asia this could easily cause disaster.
    The EU is useless and are only respected by cocky nations who have absolutely zero reasons for conflict..

    The EU is all talk and no push...... The EU is a joke.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The EU is useless and are only respected by cocky nations who have absolutely zero reasons for conflict..

    The EU is all talk and no push...... The EU is a joke.
    The EU might be a joke on the Ukrainians.
    But they aren't laughing.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I suspect you meant Edward Snowden, not Jonathan Pollard. Pollard gave classified information to Israel. Snowden very likely provided the information he took from the NSA to China and Russia.
    U.S. SAYS WIFE IN SPY CASE HAD DATA FOR CHINA - NYTimes.com

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually the US did leave the Crimea issue to the EU and more or less only supported its allies. It only issued warnings to back up the Europeans in spite of the flawed and stumbling approach they had taken.
    Mumbled threats are something the world has come to expect from The Man That Can and is paying increasingly less attention to. That is one of the problems we are seeing. Obama is not taken all together seriously, so US backing did not suffice to neutralize the European blunder.

    In Asia this could easily cause disaster.
    My point is that Ukraine is only a part of marginal US interests. It is more of a direct interest of the EU Therefore we should have let the Europeans figure out how they wanted to respond to Yanukovych's rejection of the EU association agreement. Instead we got involved in the protests, and directly threatened Yanukovych and other financial and political interests in Ukraine that set the stage for the collapse of the government. It was an extremely bad strategic move because for the sake of a minor, marginal interest, we increased the instability of the Ukraine and set back relations with Russia, a major world power, with whom our relations are a strong interest. The Russian annexation of Crimea should have been an anticipated response to the collapse of the Ukrainian government, and therefore was simply not worth the risk.

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