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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I really don't think it's wise for the US to take positions that will encourage China and Russia to cooperate more in the area of defense. It would give China something rather interesting to do with all those US dollars that it has.

    Not wise.
    Your right, China also has a very powerful military. They and Russia received a lot of U.S. military secrets they obtained from the spy Jonathon Pollard, who stole enough secrets to fill a walk in closet.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Hypothetically, if China did seize that small island, what exactly could the US do about it? Sanctions aren't an option. Military isn't an option. I don't know that the US has a foreign policy to address such an action and given China's ownership of so much of the US debt isn't America the eunuch in the room on this issue?
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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hypothetically, if China did seize that small island, what exactly could the US do about it? Sanctions aren't an option. Military isn't an option. I don't know that the US has a foreign policy to address such an action and given China's ownership of so much of the US debt isn't America the eunuch in the room on this issue?
    One option, while not an immediate solution, would be the strengthening of our manufacturing base. China needs to export as much as we are dependent on imports.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

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    One option, while not an immediate solution, would be the strengthening of our manufacturing base. China needs to export as much as we are dependent on imports.
    I doubt that is going to happen.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    You are probably right, but more people are waking up to the fact that we can't sustain as is.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Since obama became pres the world has spun out of control and I expect China will make this move while obama is pres if that is a move they want to make in this world wide chess game.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    One option, while not an immediate solution, would be the strengthening of our manufacturing base. China needs to export as much as we are dependent on imports.
    That's a good idea and it's something we should be doing regardless. Unfortunately, as you have hinted, that is something that would take a while.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    What if it wasn't a small island, but North Korea that China suddenly decided to invade and liberate from it's oppressive gov't?? While we all can recognize that China does have a very oppressive gov't, they are vastly better than NK and a Chinese take-over of NK would definitely make things better for the people of NK and bring a large measure of stability to that region.
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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Your right, China also has a very powerful military. They and Russia received a lot of U.S. military secrets they obtained from the spy Jonathon Pollard, who stole enough secrets to fill a walk in closet.
    Although they have a powerful military, they are quite a bit behind the US in terms of technical capabilities. But the thing is that they haven't really tried to match the US in that regard. Instead they have concentrated more on devising asymmetric types of defense. It's my understanding that the idea to fly planes into skyscrapers actually came from a Chinese military planner.

    However, if China felt threatened, it could start to focus more on increasing it's capabilities. If they were to work more closely with Russia in that regard, the two of them together could become quite formidable.

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    Re: U.S. warns China not to attempt Crimea-style action in Asia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Although they have a powerful military, they are quite a bit behind the US in terms of technical capabilities. But the thing is that they haven't really tried to match the US in that regard. Instead they have concentrated more on devising asymmetric types of defense. It's my understanding that the idea to fly planes into skyscrapers actually came from a Chinese military planner.

    However, if China felt threatened, it could start to focus more on increasing it's capabilities. If they were to work more closely with Russia in that regard, the two of them together could become quite formidable.

    While I agree China and Russia are both dangerous, let us not forget that their economies are both rather feeble behind the curtain. If all else failed, denying Russia the ability to sell its oil and gas would strangle it. China is not really interested in global domination, it is concerned more about shoring up it's surroundings to insulate itself from outsiders.

    Globalization has brought with it cheap goods and economic interdependence and these things make us all vulnerable. It has proven to be the achilles heel of the US in foreign policy. US companies sought to maximize profits through cheap labor and production costs by going to China, and in the end succeeded in making the US economy weak enough that we now cannot effectively act as the world's lone superpower.

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