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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Crovax said:
What makes the corporate culture at Intel so different than the other tech companies?
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The corporate culture at Intel is irrelevant. There's been numerous stories about the corporate culture at Mozilla. Does that really sound like a place that would donate to pro prop-8 causes at a 60% rate? Let's be serious here.
 
TheNextEra said:
Your fact does not prove mozilla is behind this, that is FACT.

Fact provided by me that you can't prove mozilla is for prop 8 is FACT. Fact you can prove mozilla is antyi-gay, ZERO.
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So if you don't support gay marriage you are anti-gay? watch out your bigotry is showing
 
Only four Prop 8 donors listed Mozilla as their employer.

Results for: mozilla - Proposition 8 Campaign Contributions - Los Angeles Times

Four.

Also from the Silver link I posted earlier:

There isn’t much data on Mozilla. Only four Proposition 8 donors listed it as their employer: Eich, who donated in support of the measure, and three others who opposed it. But it’s likely that employee sentiment at Mozilla is much like that at Google. The organizations share a lot in common; Google accounts for a large share of Mozilla’s revenue, and both are based in Mountain View, Calif. Mozilla has a reputation for progressivity, and almost all donations by its employees during the 2012 election cycle were to liberal or libertarian candidates and causes.
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Crovax said:
So if you don't support gay marriage you are anti-gay? watch out your bigotry is showing
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Methinks one needs to look up "bigotry" in a dictionary.
 
Crovax said:
So if you don't support gay marriage you are anti-gay? watch out your bigotry is showing
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Again, waiting for you to prove mozilla is anti-SSM.
 
Crovax said:
watch out your bigotry is showing
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Those against SSM in today's age bigotry is showing. It really affects nothing. For those against SSM, SSM affects them the SAME way interracial marriage affected those against interracial marriage. They are on the WRONG side of history. And thankfully, that's proving to be true.
 
Kobie said:
The corporate culture at Intel is irrelevant. There's been numerous stories about the corporate culture at Mozilla. Does that really sound like a place that would donate to pro prop-8 causes at a 60% rate? Let's be serious here.
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No it is clearly relevant you claimed to culture at Mozilla would lead you to assume that they would support prop 8. What is different about the Mozilla and Intel corporate cultures? I would bet they are similar, nearly every company I have worked at has only cared about making money, making the best product and serving the customer. Discriminating in a corporate sense almost always ends up badly.
 
Crovax said:
No it is clearly relevant you claimed to culture at Mozilla would lead you to assume that they would support prop 8. What is different about the Mozilla and Intel corporate cultures? I would bet they are similar, nearly every company I have worked at has only cared about making money, making the best product and serving the customer. Discriminating in a corporate sense almost always ends up badly.
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See post 1703 and we can end this nonsensical idea that Mozilla employees were likely pro-Prop 8 right now.
 
Crovax said:
No it is clearly relevant you claimed to culture at Mozilla would lead you to assume that they would support prop 8. What is different about the Mozilla and Intel corporate cultures? I would bet they are similar, nearly every company I have worked at has only cared about making money, making the best product and serving the customer. Discriminating in a corporate sense almost always ends up badly.
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Are you out of your flippin' mind? You can't see how the corporate culture at an open-source, free-web software company like Mozilla might be different than a hardware manufacturer like Intel?
 
Crovax said:
Again waiting for you to prove that mozilla is pro prop 8

shall I point to the scoreboard again?
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Wait. Nobody said Mozilla was pro Prop-8. Proposition 8 banned same sex marriage. The argument is that Mozilla employees were against it.
 
Kobie said:
See post 1703 and we can end this nonsensical idea that Mozilla employees were likely pro-Prop 8 right now.
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Well if a sample size of four is good enough to convince you, then I have a poll that shows Mondale won all 50 states in 84
 
Kobie said:
Wait. Nobody said Mozilla was pro Prop-8. Proposition 8 banned same sex marriage. The argument is that Mozilla employees were against it.
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I meant anti, sorry for mistyping.
 
Kobie said:
Are you out of your flippin' mind? You can't see how the corporate culture at an open-source, free-web software company like Mozilla might be different than a hardware manufacturer like Intel?
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If it was so obvious it should be that hard for you to tell me
 
Crovax said:
Well if a sample size of four is good enough to convince you, then I have a poll that shows Mondale won all 50 states in 88
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You're the one attempting to use statewide exit polls for people making 30-150K a year as evidence that Mozilla employees were pro-Prop 8, which is mind-numbingly stupid.
 
Crovax said:
Again waiting for you to prove that mozilla is anti prop 8

shall I point to the scoreboard again?
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I already said I don't know one way or another, you said otherwise. So prove it. Shall I repeat my post for you?

Here is what I said:
I'll flat out say I haven't seen data on the voting histories of the company employees one way or another, so please enlighten us how you come to that conclusion.
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...down-amid-gay-marriage-furor-w-577-a-168.html
 
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Kobie said:
Post 1703. The block quote.
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So Mozilla is progressive, whats your point?

Intel is progressive too

Fortune’s “100 Best” leads Intel’s honors for progressive workplace standards
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Intel Diversity Awards

How does Intel and Mozilla's corporate culture differ so that Intel would support prop 8 and Mozilla would oppose it?
 
Kobie said:
This does not strike me as an anti-gay marriage crew.
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So now we get down to the real heart of it, its just your gut feeling and that's fine. I just disagree is all
 
Crovax said:
So now we get down to the real heart of it, its just your gut feeling and that's fine. I just disagree is all
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And you're basing that on nothing. You have zero evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, to support the idea that Mozilla employees were largely pro-Prop 8.
 
Crovax said:
So now we get down to the real heart of it, its just your gut feeling and that's fine. I just disagree is all
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No more than your assumption. Still waiting for you to prove Mozilla was for the anti-SSM proposition. Prove it.
 
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