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It seems the right is just jealous that the left sometimes gets things done with their boycotts while the right's boycotts dont accomplish anything.
 
To claim that anyone wants employers to have ownership over their lives is just plain bizarre.:screwy

I haven't gotten a reply yet. I won't hold my breath:lol:

facts and posting proving an argument silly are usually ignored.

Its halarious how what the CEO did was "free speech" but what the employees and customers did was

evil
hateful
vindictive
attacking
disgraceful
revenge
not decent
hypocritical
arrogant
crazy
etc


all halarious

the fact remains they were BOTH free speech and nothing more but some peoples feelings are hurt over one so they try to give it cool emotional names

but nobody honest, educated and objective buys it
 
You [Kobie] said "The people who worked at Mozilla made it unequivocally clear that they had a big problem working for this guy." I assumed by that statement, which was very broad, you knew something. I never read how many people were behind this. 10? 100? 25,000? You don't need to swear at me because you don't have an answer.

He's just making stuff up. It is certainly most likely the the majority of Mozilla employees who voted in that election voted in favor of Proposition 8, the same cause which Mr. Eich is under fire for having supported.
 
He's just making stuff up. It is certainly most likely the the majority of Mozilla employees who voted in that election voted in favor of Proposition 8, the same cause which Mr. Eich is under fire for having supported.

And what do you base that on?

I'll flat out say I haven't seen data on the voting histories of the company employees one way or another, so please enlighten us how you come to that conclusion.
 
It seems the right is just jealous that the left sometimes gets things done with their boycotts while the right's boycotts dont accomplish anything.

Only in your fantasies do you see the left wrong getting what it wanted here by boycotting. Really, this is an area where those of you on the wrong could not get your way through the legitimate democratic process, so you cheated. You got a corrupt pervert of a judge to overturn the clearly-expressed will of the people. And not being satisfied with that, you continue to seek revenge against high-profile targets who dared to stand against your cause. You can take satisfaction about having done so against Mr,. Eich, but it will be short-lived. The backlash that such antics will bring against your side will do far more harm to your cause than you will ever gain this way. You ought to have learned your lesson from the incidents involving Chick-fil-A and the Duck Dynasty guy. But then your side is not the side that is noted for intelligence nor the ability to learn from your errors.
 
He's just making stuff up. It is certainly most likely the the majority of Mozilla employees who voted in that election voted in favor of Proposition 8, the same cause which Mr. Eich is under fire for having supported.

And what do you base that on?

I'll flat out say I haven't seen data on the voting histories of the company employees one way or another, so please enlighten us how you come to that conclusion.

The majority of Californians voted in favor of Proposition 8. It stands to reason that unless one can demonstrate a solid reason to suppose otherwise, that any random subset of Californian voters (such as Mozilla employees) is likely to have voted about the same way that the whole of California voted.
 
The majority of Californians voted in favor of Proposition 8. It stands to reason that unless one can demonstrate a solid reason to suppose otherwise, that any random subset of Californian voters (such as Mozilla employees) is likely to have voted about the same way that the whole of California voted.

Sorry but companies are NOT distributed in that way. In others words, just admit you pulled it out of your ass and be honest. How hackish of you. No wonder some conservatives are called CONS.
 
Sorry but companies are NOT distributed in that way. In others words, just admit you pulled it out of your ass and be honest. How hackish of you. No wonder some conservatives are called CONS.

If you're going to claim that the ratio of supporters vs. opponents of Proposition 8 among Mozilla employees is significantly different than that among Californians in general, then yours is the side that has some proving to do. Lacking any such evidence, my assumption is the most likely to be correct.
 
If you're going to claim that the ratio of supporters vs. opponents of Proposition 8 among Mozilla employees is significantly different than that among Californians in general, then yours is the side that has some proving to do. Lacking any such evidence, my assumption is the most likely to be correct.

Prove the mozilla workers are more likely to have voted prop 8. You need to read what I said. Typical CON mentality.
 
The majority of Californians voted in favor of Proposition 8. It stands to reason that unless one can demonstrate a solid reason to suppose otherwise, that any random subset of Californian voters (such as Mozilla employees) is likely to have voted about the same way that the whole of California voted.

Because the tech industry has generally long been supporters of gay rights, and the more highly educated tend to support gay rights more, not to mention mozilla is a silicon valley tech company, and san fransisco is an area long known for supporting gay rights. My guess is that most of them voted no on prop 8
 
If you're going to claim that the ratio of supporters vs. opponents of Proposition 8 among Mozilla employees is significantly different than that among Californians in general, then yours is the side that has some proving to do. Lacking any such evidence, my assumption is the most likely to be correct.

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Proposition 8 passed with 52 percent of the vote in 2008, although it was opposed by 56 percent of voters in Santa Clara County and 62 percent of voters in San Mateo County, which are the two most associated with Silicon Valley.

Support for Prop 8 in San Francisco county, where Mozilla is headquartered, was ~25%.
 
Yet again, assuming an ENTIRE company votes that way is insane. Prove it.

I proved the demographics favor that more of them voted yes on prop 8 than no. You have to prove that the demographics don't represent Mozilla.
 
I proved the demographics favor that more of them voted yes on prop 8 than no. You have to prove that the demographics don't represent Mozilla.

You assumed those demographics applied to Mozilla a tech company. Thats for YOU to prove. It doesn't work for EVERY company and you know it.
 
You assumed those demographics applied to Mozilla a tech company. Thats for YOU to prove. It doesn't work for EVERY company and you know it.

No its for you to prove what demographics make up Mozilla, since you are the one claiming I am wrong. Prove me wrong.
 
No its for you to prove what demographics make up Mozilla, since you are the one claiming I am wrong. Prove me wrong.

YOU made the claim mozilla is made up like that is is YOU to prove it.
 
YOU made the claim mozilla is made up like that is is YOU to prove it.

YOU made the claim that Mozilla is not made up like that it is up to YOU to prove it.


Facts provided by me: 1
Facts provided by you: ZERO
 
YOU made the claim that Mozilla is not made up like that it is up to YOU to prove it.


Facts provided by me: 1
Facts provided by you: ZERO

How is your "fact" proving mozilla is made up like that? Please show that "fact that mozilla is made up like that. You have provided ZERO evidence of mozilla in this regard. Typical CON, please show correlation.
 
How is your "fact" proving mozilla is made up like that? Please show that "fact that mozilla is made up like that. You have provided ZERO evidence of mozilla in this regard. Typical CON

Yet another post where have provided nothing of proof and continue to hurl insults.

*points to scoreboard*

Facts provided by me: 1
Facts provided by you: ZERO
 
Yet another post where have provided nothing of proof and continue to hurl insults.

*points to scoreboard*

Facts provided by me: 1
Facts provided by you: ZERO

Ahem.

Support for Prop 8 in Silicon Valley and San Francisco County is a lot more relevant to how Mozilla employees likely voted than statewide exit polls of people who made between 30K and 150K, which is a widely disparate income range.

SCOREBOARD: ME
 
Ahem.

Support for Prop 8 in Silicon Valley and San Francisco County is a lot more relevant to how Mozilla employees likely voted than statewide exit polls of people who made between 30K and 150K, which is a widely disparate income range.

SCOREBOARD: ME

From your article

However, there was quite a bit of variation from business to business. At Intel, 60 percent of employee donations were in support of Proposition 8.

So what other silicon valley companies did as a whole means jack since Mozilla could easily be like Intel instead of Apple
 
From your article

So what other silicon valley companies did as a whole means jack since Mozilla could easily be like Intel instead of Apple

And from everything that's been put out there about the corporate culture at Mozilla, if you believe it just as easily could have been that way, you're in willful denial.
 
And from everything that's been put out there about the corporate culture at Mozilla, if you believe it just as easily could have been that way, you're in willful denial.

What makes the corporate culture at Intel so different than the other tech companies?
 
Yet another post where have provided nothing of proof and continue to hurl insults.

*points to scoreboard*

Facts provided by me: 1
Facts provided by you: ZERO

Your fact does not prove mozilla is behind this, that is FACT.

Fact provided by me that you can't prove mozilla is for prop 8 is FACT. Fact you can prove mozilla is antyi-gay, ZERO.
 
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