13.)Only if you think that blasting out insults, and mis-characterizing what I said proves anything wrong...That I believe is a fallacious thinking on your part. The shame is, that I think you're a pretty bright guy, and could have some really good conversations on issues, but until that chip on your shoulder is set aside, I fear that you will only continue to provide vitriol, and attack to those with differing views than your own.
14.)Although, what OKCupid did here, I guess you could argue was free speech, it was harassment in the sense that they informed their users that they would no longer use Mozilla as a browser until Eich was out. That to me crosses a line, attacking the business until an action is taken by the business. And to me it has some dark undertones of fascist suppression of speech that is not ethical.
15.)So, did they break a law? No, I don't think so, but I am not a lawyer, I guess it depends on the complete story on what OKCupid said about Eich, and what he can prove damaged him....That would be slander, and hard to prove.
16.)It's kind of simple really. We have a culture now trying to take hold, that everyone must agree with the mob, or not dare to speak up, otherwise they will be destroyed. I think that is dangerous.
17.)Threats are for bullies....
18.)Is that the point you are so trying to get across J? I guess in a way that IS what this is about...
19.) I have no problem with free speech, but don't think for a second that I have to agree with what you say to be a proponent of such. Just as OKCupid didn't have to agree with Mr. Eich's donation years ago.
20.) But, I don't have the right to go into your business and have you resign for what you say in here
21.) they don't have the right to demand that he be let go because they disagree with him.
22.)Now, a challenge for you J. Let's see if you can post to me without breaking rules, or spewing venomous attacks. I would love to see you put that energy into thoughtful posting rather than what you think is clever, not so veiled attacks.
13.) attack attack attack deflection attack. Still no evidence of the lies you claimed i said logic behind your claims.
like i said take my advice and your posts wont fail so bad. DOnt make stuff up, be honest and youll have better success, the issues is all yours and theres zero chip on my shoulder that just further proves how little you know about me lol
14.) nobody was "attacked" drop that hilarious rhetoric.
its ALL FREE SPEECH, all of it. SOme of it YOU just dont like.
this is nothing new has been going on for ever and its all free speech. If you dont like it theres others country that dont have it or simply come up with a better solution. How would you fix free speech and still keep it free speech.
Person A said somethign and donated to a cause to deny rights
People B said they didnt like it, told others they didnt like it , some boycotted because they didnt like it and they suggested others boycott also
all free speech
15.) no laws were broken so its free speech, If laws are found to be broken then punish those crimes untill then this is nothing new and how free speech works
16.) this isnt happening AT ALL lol
and what evidence of that is there?
when did this start? when minorities were fighting for rights? when women were? when people were fighting for interracial marriage? when people outted political, educational, law enforcement, government officials for thier views? when people out leaders of orgs for something that goes against that company?
why is THIS case treated like somethign new when all it is is free speech and its been going on for a very long time? again what your solution?
17.) threats? LMAO what threat? you like to make a lot up dont you? DOes just makign stuff up usually work in your posts because its not here
18.) the point was you asked what is a bigot and you havent mentioned it since not even in this post
the point is you asked a question and i answered, it was a VERY simply question and a very simple answer and somehow you are now talking about attacks and force and black dark places and havent even mention what makes a bigot again. Thats the point. The point was your straw men and left field rant failed and when i pointed out the dishonesty of your posts you simply just kept going further off in some other direstion.
If you are TRULY and HONESTLY asking me questions and want to understand why have you not ask me anything about the word BIGOT again since thats all i answered? oh wait i know because you made things up and went in a totally different direction moving the goal post to somethign else.
19.) good grief do you have anything that isnt a failed starwman? when did i say you have to agree with me?
anyway your posts prove you dont like free speech because you labeled one type as free speech and the other is attacking and harassment etc etc VERY telling
20.) good thing this never factually happened then huh?
21.) WRONG, they (workers and customers) absolute can SAY this and that's exactly what free speech is, thanks you for proving you dont understand that fact.
22.) already did this since i broke no rules or "venomously attacked" you LMAO
let me know when you are ready to admit you were factually wrong with your assumptions and strawmen and that you are not trying to understand your original question in any means what so ever
also please back up your false claim that people dont have the free speech to ask for someone to be fired
lastly free speech is for us ALL, not just those you agree with if you think thats wrong give me your solution?
