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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

My understanding was that he left (probably after being convinced to do so) the company due to some percentage of their customers complaining about his actions (unreasonably, I think).

It may not be fair to him, but I can see the logic behind not having a controversial person as CEO.

But why is it 'controversial' at all?

The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?
 
But why is it 'controversial' at all?

The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?

IRS didn't release anything on Eich, other employees found the information, as any political contribution $1,000 or more is public, and made it public, causing a huge, over zealous commotion in the customer base, turning Eich into a corporate liability, forcing him to resign.

I'd still like to know more about whom at the company pushed this info on Eich out to the public's attention, and why, as it was years ago in an environment where many prominent politicians and other public figures were of the same position without suffering the wrath of LBGT bigots and extremists.
 
Perhaps. We do have very polarizing politics. I think it's unfortunate since both parties have a right to their beliefs and political freedom of pushing policy and protesting policy. No one is inherently wrong. With that said there is always a price we pay for living in a democracy and I wouldn't have it any other way. Unfortunately, this will only lead to a push for less transparency because money buys power. I'm a realist and acknowledge not much good will be won out of this case. The protestors may have won this battle but not necessarily the war.

I think they have won the war. The schools and universities are turning out more politically correct conformists every day and any diversion from 'the truth' will cause people to lose their jobs as well as to be publicly ostracized.

Brendan Eich will now have difficulty being hired anywhere but with his intelligence and leadership skills he can probably start his own company. Others with fewer skills or connections may not be so lucky when they are hit for their political donations..
 
But why is it 'controversial' at all?

The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?
I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...

My understanding of the situation is that he donated some money half a decade ago or so, someone in the company called him on it and made it public (seems like BS to me, who cares what you donated to 5 years ago, I know my opinions on **** change in 5 years), and the mob turned against him (or was turned against him?), which led to his removing himself from the position (probably for the good of the company, perhaps that should be in quotes?...run on sentence, whatever).

It seems like some bull**** to me, but at the same time if the mob doesn't like you and your company runs partially on popularity, you have to appease the mob to stay in business.

And I'm using "mob" here to refer to the masses of semi-mindless persons who make up humanity (sure as hell we've all been part of a mob on some scale at some point in our lives, whether we realize it or not).
 
Right, because a protest is an expression of objection to political points of view and happens in democracies all the time. A company makes it's own decision if their employee is a liability to their product/service, as have many a shock jock been canned for public out cries and more. Again, it's called living in a democracy. People have a total right to be haters, prejudice, moral repressors...... but don't be shocked when there are consequences to such behavior, especially if you harm business profits. That is the bottom line to every business.

The voice of intolerance and hate.:peace
 
I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...

Some insane and unprincipled IRS official leaked the list of donors to the press and the IRS is now closing ranks and keeping mum about who broke the law. There was a link to a news report about this upthread. Search for IRS.
 
I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...

My understanding of the situation is that he donated some money half a decade ago or so, someone in the company called him on it and made it public (seems like BS to me, who cares what you donated to 5 years ago, I know my opinions on **** change in 5 years), and the mob turned against him (or was turned against him?), which led to his removing himself from the position (probably for the good of the company, perhaps that should be in quotes?...run on sentence, whatever).

It seems like some bull**** to me, but at the same time if the mob doesn't like you and your company runs partially on popularity, you have to appease the mob to stay in business.

And I'm using "mob" here to refer to the masses of semi-mindless persons who make up humanity (sure as hell we've all been part of a mob on some scale at some point in our lives, whether we realize it or not).

And he stood his ground against that mob (for what it's worth) rather than opting to express any sort of evolution on his part. It's important to keep in mind that he actually had the opportunity to respond to his detractors, and did in fact do so. People here would have you believe that he just stood by dumbstruck as a rabble of unwashed 18th century angry French peasants stormed into his office and threw him out a window from the 50th floor (it's picturesque if nothing else).

As for Grant, keep in mind he's not aware of any rights being denied to gay people. He's hopeless uninformed on the subject.
 
It would appear you have no argument other than to raise your voice and wave your arms. Hate devours the hater.:peace

My argument is that your comparison is ridiculously stupid. To say they are "in the same continuum" is weapons-grade nonsense.
 
My argument is that your comparison is ridiculously stupid. To say they are "in the same continuum" is weapons-grade nonsense.

Just more arm waving and shouting. The tools of the unsophisticated.:peace
 
I think they have won the war. The schools and universities are turning out more politically correct conformists every day and any diversion from 'the truth' will cause people to lose their jobs as well as to be publicly ostracized.

I doubt it. More people will lose their jobs for much more benign reasons.
 
Just more arm waving and shouting. The tools of the unsophisticated.:peace

"Arm waving and shouting" are all your ridiculous comparison merits. Sophistication is wasted on the eternally obstinate.
 
Some insane and unprincipled IRS official leaked the list of donors to the press and the IRS is now closing ranks and keeping mum about who broke the law. There was a link to a news report about this upthread. Search for IRS.
Wasn't the IRS involved in some politically biased examination of tax documents earlier?

Who the hell let them (the IRS) run wild like this, and why?
 
Really, what exactly is hateful or intolerant?

"Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."
--Andrew Sullivan:peace
 
"Arm waving and shouting" are all your ridiculous comparison merits. Sophistication is wasted on the eternally obstinate.

Stalin's probable justification for Katyn. Keep up the good work.:peace
 
It would appear you have no argument other than to raise your voice and wave your arms. Hate devours the hater.:peace

You put a CEO stepping down on the same field as Stalin. It was, improbably, the stupidest contribution to this thread.
 
You put a CEO stepping down on the same field as Stalin. It was, improbably, the stupidest contribution to this thread.

And it's got plenty of competition.
 
You put a CEO stepping down on the same field as Stalin. It was, improbably, the stupidest contribution to this thread.

Illegitimate repression is illegitimate repression. It is why Berkeley's free speech movement became the anti-war movement. The comparison is only unappealing to you because the moral connection makes you uncomfortable.:peace
 
"Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."
--Andrew Sullivan:peace


This makes for great fodder. I like the part about the stocks the best. Makes it so dramatic and full of hyperbole.
 
This makes for great fodder. I like the part about the stocks the best. Makes it so dramatic and full of hyperbole.

Personally, I think he should have gone with the Black Death, which decimated two thirds of Europe. That packs much more of a wallop.
 
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