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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Marriage between Gays is not a point of view its a change in long held laws, and everyone should have an opportunity to speak on any of these historical changes to any long held traditions and laws.. I happen to support Gay marriage (my son is Gay) but what is happening now is the silencing of any opposing opinions and the threats from employers and the court if you don't adhere to the fashionable belief of the day.

This fascism is truly more dangerous than any idea of Gay marriage, and will continue on long after whatever controversial subjects may arrive next.

Yes, it's the fascism itself rather than this particular "fashion" that is dangerous to all of us.
 
So now that this is all over, and Eich is no longer CEO, is the issue closed, or is there something more the "Eich-is-a-bigot" folks are looking for?

They'll never stop persecuting people they don't like.
 
Incorrect - everyone will simply then disagree on what "logic and reason" say.

No, only stupid people disagree on what logic and reason say and they can be safely ignored.
 
Given that he was actually in favor of SSM at the time, and only adopted the position that he did in order to win the election of 2008, yes, in fact, he did.

So, you don't think he changed his mind. You think he covered his true feelings, for decades, just to unleash a fraud upon the American people when the time was right.

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Right, because the bullies are the ones protesting those funding laws that suppress their right. Welcome to America were protest is allowed.

Protest does not hound a man from his work and destroy his livelihood to make a political point. That's something much uglier.:peace

“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
― George Orwell, Animal Farm
 
If he's a bigot, then those pushing gay marriage are also bigots. No rights were stripped, or proposed to be stripped from anyone. What's so hard to understand?

Read the amendment, and its history. It was an explicit attempt to strip rights then held by gays, and to forever limit them. This isn't actually up for debate.
 
Actually, just to illustrate your totally unfounded assumptions here, I used to vehemently rail against gay marriage, until before even being a member of this site, I was in a debate on another site, and was in a respectful, and informative debate I changed my mind. So, long story short, for about the past 6 years, I have supported the right of anyone to "marry" anyone they wish...But, apparently the bar now seems to be not only support, but I must shout it from the rooftops to be believed. I just don't care about it that much....However, your assumption is wrong. And to avoid looking foolish in the future, I would suggest that you hold off on assuming things about people you don't even know.

I apologize for that assumption, but the bolded part makes the same point. It's not an issue you care about. I don't know why we should expect others, who are personally affected, should have the same take it or leave attitude as you.

And I don't know what the protesters expected, but since he didn't even make a feeble attempt to distance himself from his previous support for LGBT second class status, we can't know if protesters demand he shout from the rooftops. He didn't offer even the mildest support for their current right to marry, or indicate he would no longer fight against SSM. He did express support for tolerance in the workplace, which is just different.

Not every thing you want to change about society is all of the sudden "a right"..... THAT is more what I am arguing against rather than whether or not Joe, and Steve whom have been together for 20 years want to have a wedding.

Marriage is a right - the Supreme Court has a long line of cases saying as much. Whether it should be extended to SS couples is the question.

Hypothetical arguments are for losing debates....Stick with facts and you'll fare better.

The point was to try to extend similar facts to a 'right' others might find worth protecting.
 
Protest does not hound a man from his work and destroy his livelihood to make a political point. That's something much uglier.:peace

Right, because a protest is an expression of objection to political points of view and happens in democracies all the time. A company makes it's own decision if their employee is a liability to their product/service, as have many a shock jock been canned for public out cries and more. Again, it's called living in a democracy. People have a total right to be haters, prejudice, moral repressors...... but don't be shocked when there are consequences to such behavior, especially if you harm business profits. That is the bottom line to every business.
 
Yes, it's the fascism itself rather than this particular "fashion" that is dangerous to all of us.

I'm really surprised at characterizing fighting for some cause one believes in as 'fascism.'

And they didn't "silence' opposing opinions. They expressed extreme disapproval of someone's support for an attempt to strip them of their rights. As someone mentioned earlier, gays protested Chic Fil A and the Duck Dynasty guy. They expressed disapproval, the supporters of Chic Fil A and Duck guy expressed their approval through social media, and nothing happened. Gun owners protested a column in Guns & Ammo and the guy was fired. I don't see fascism in any of that, just people speaking their mind, exercising their political rights, and sometimes there are consequences and sometimes there aren't.

I think we'd all agree if the guy donated $1,000 to the KKK, he should have been fired. So what we're talking about is the seriousness of the issue, not whether people have a right to object with what the CEO politically supports on his personal time.
 
Protest does not hound a man from his work and destroy his livelihood to make a political point. That's something much uglier.:peace

“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
― George Orwell, Animal Farm


‘Bastion of intolerance and punishment’: Tammy Bruce shreds Mozilla for caving to ‘gay gestapo’ | Twitchy


Excerpts:

Hi @mozilla, I'm a gay woman who is appalled that you caved to the Gay Gestapo. So who else will be pressured to leave for not conforming?
2:24 PM - 3 Apr 2014



Tammy Bruce ✔ @HeyTammyBruce
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Gay civil rights movement began to make sure people weren't punished for who they were. Now look what you've become #gaygestapo @mozilla
2:27 PM - 3 Apr 2014
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The actions of a self righteous segment of the left have become more than only unsavory.

OK Cupid apparently needed free publicity; and found willing participants to engage in and egregiously inflict upon another those specific behaviors that those participants so vociferously protest.

A pathetic portrayal of tolerance from those demanding such.


Thom Paine
 
‘Bastion of intolerance and punishment’: Tammy Bruce shreds Mozilla for caving to ‘gay gestapo’ | Twitchy


Excerpts:

Hi @mozilla, I'm a gay woman who is appalled that you caved to the Gay Gestapo. So who else will be pressured to leave for not conforming?
2:24 PM - 3 Apr 2014



Tammy Bruce ✔ @HeyTammyBruce
Follow

Gay civil rights movement began to make sure people weren't punished for who they were. Now look what you've become #gaygestapo @mozilla
2:27 PM - 3 Apr 2014
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The actions of a self righteous segment of the left have become more than only unsavory.

OK Cupid apparently needed free publicity; and found willing participants to engage in and egregiously inflict upon another those specific behaviors that those participants so vociferously protest.

A pathetic portrayal of tolerance from those demanding such.


Thom Paine

What a shocker. Protestors being portrayed as "Gestapo" and CEO portrayed as victim. Pretty transparent.
 
What a shocker. Protestors being portrayed as "Gestapo" and CEO portrayed as victim. Pretty transparent.

you stop being a protestor and starting being the thought police when you try to force people to be fired because they don't believe what you do.
just like the chicfila backlash this will have a backlash to.

all of it negative on the gay right movement. they are doing themselves more harm than good.
 
I have a question to ask..... Why do some people here feel that giving unlimited amounts of corporation money to candidates should be considered free speech, but people choosing not to buy a product because it does not represent their political views is not free speech, but persecution?
 
you stop being a protestor and starting being the thought police when you try to force people to be fired because they don't believe what you do.
just like the chicfila backlash this will have a backlash to.

all of it negative on the gay right movement. they are doing themselves more harm than good.

Oh, so they forced the company to fire him. It had nothing to do with his actions that the company found as a liability to their product.
 
I have a question to ask..... Why do some people here feel that giving unlimited amounts of corporation money to candidates should be considered free speech, but people choosing not to buy a product because it does not represent their political views is not free speech, but persecution?

Similar questions have been asked throughout the thread. No answers yet. Glaringly ignored is the fact that nobody questions that it's perfectly acceptable to vote out your representative for holding to a different set of beliefs than your own. The logic fail of the people in defense of Eich is nothing short of remarkable.
 
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He's a bigot. He can eat a ****.
He has a different point of view than you. You are the bigot.

Mozilla dumped the CEO because of a fear of declining (and boycotting) revenue for their company.

Anti-bullying bills are far more dangerous than this episode.
Any anti-bullying bill certainly curtails freedom of speech, and makes any politically incorrect thought or speech ILLEGAL.
 
He has a different point of view than you. You are the bigot.

You need to look up the word bigot, you're using it wrong. It's sad when basic definitions are beyond people. Please do attempt to become an informed participant.
 
He has a different point of view than you. You are the bigot.

Mozilla dumped the CEO because of a fear of declining (and boycotting) revenue for their company.

Anti-bullying bills are far more dangerous than this episode.
Any anti-bullying bill certainly curtails freedom of speech, and makes any politically incorrect thought or speech ILLEGAL.

They dumped the CEO because he didn't represent the image of the company.
 
Read the amendment, and its history. It was an explicit attempt to strip rights then held by gays, and to forever limit them. This isn't actually up for debate.
You are wrong. Has the New York Yankee organization, for example, stripped the rights of the Boston Red Sox of playing in a sumptuous palace like Yankees Stadium? Boston can play in a sumptuous palace like Yankee Stadium.. They just have to build one, themselves. Also, Boston can play baseball.. So, no rights stripped there, either.

Gay rights activists always get it wrong (intentionally). Does anyone strip or prevent gays from entering into a legal union? No. Can this union have all the rights and responsibilities of marriage? Yes, with legislation. WHAT THE HECK ARE GAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT? That gay relationships aren't considered on the same vein as hetro relationships? Well.. they aren't the same.
 
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You are wrong. Has the New York Yankee organization, for example, stripped the rights of the Boston Red Sox of playing in a sumptuous palace like Yankees Stadium? Boston can play in a sumptuous palace like Yankee Stadium.. They just have to build one, themselves. Also, Boston can play baseball.. So, no rights stripped there, either.

Gay rights activists always get it wrong (intentionally). Does anyone strip or prevent gays from entering into a legal union? No. Can this union have all the rights and responsibilities of marriage? Yes, with legislation. WHAT THE HECK ARE GAYS COMPLAINIG ABOUT? That gay relationships are considered on the same vein as hetro relationships? Well.. they aren't the same.

If there was any more ignorance in this post it would collapse on itself and cause a singularity.
 
Oh, so they forced the company to fire him. It had nothing to do with his actions that the company found as a liability to their product.

yep pretty much he was forced out. they didn't worry about it for the past 6 years so why now is it so much of a problem?

let them scream and cry and whine and pitch a fit. companies should just ignore them and their feigned outrage and they will go away. when they learn that people will just ignore them then they will stop.
 
yep pretty much he was forced out. they didn't worry about it for the past 6 years so why now is it so much of a problem?

It didn't have to be, but Eich stood up to them and, well, the rest is history.
 
If there was any more ignorance in this post it would collapse on itself and cause a singularity.
Good. Now tell me why it's ignorant. Maybe you don't understand the simile?
 
yep pretty much he was forced out. they didn't worry about it for the past 6 years so why now is it so much of a problem?

let them scream and cry and whine and pitch a fit. companies should just ignore them and their feigned outrage and they will go away. when they learn that people will just ignore them then they will stop.

Some may ignore them while others may not. That's all part and parcel to living in a democracy.
 
It didn't have to be, but Eich stood up to them and, well, the rest is history.

yep how dare people stand up for what they believe in. that isn't covered in the constitution at all.
the company wimped out instead of following chickfila which stood up and actually improved their business for doing it.
 
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