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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

grip said:
This is becoming a typical response of "outrage mania".
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Meh, Cardinal first pointed it out to me. The offense is so slight that I'm inclined to believe there were other things that have not been disclosed. Or that they went after him for another reason.
 
RiverDad said:
...rigid thought control being injected into society by Totalitarian Liberalism and the Lavender Mafia. They're the bad guys here, they're the ones who need to rethink their zealotry. Don't be a meek coward - stand up for your beliefs and don't flinch from telling the truth that the bad guys are the ones who are out there braying for blood.
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No, I'm pretty sure the bad guy is the CEO who failed to fully disclose his activities in the interview process. That's fraud.
 
ecofarm said:
Meh, Cardinal first pointed it out to me. The offense is so slight that I'm inclined to believe there were other things that have not been disclosed. Or that they went after him for another reason.
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I think it's just the issue. Certain subjects are so taboo to oppose that it draws out the "outrage" police. Most of society are politically becoming, over sensitive nutjobs.
 
Cardinal said:
What you're describing isn't actually "new." There's a very, very good reason why it's considered smart to leave your politics at home when you go to work.
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You mean like Eich left his politics at home? Lesson learned. Voter registration data is open to the public just like the Prop 8 donations database was open to the public. The lesson that is learned here is that it doesn't matter that you keep your views on marriage out of the workplace and only express them at the ballot box, by voting for your beliefs you've injected your views into the world, just like Democrats who register and vote are now no longer keeping their political views to themselves and so it's now open season for firing Democrats for being registered Democrats or donating to Democrats.

Thanks Totalitarian Liberals, these new rules might actually work well to the benefit of normal people.
 
RiverDad said:
Maybe it was for the good that he was let go because this is now two instances I've observed where he made the wrong decision. Here he is accepting the framing of the issue put forth by the interviewer, the presumption that he did something wrong. No, this is when you take the opportunity presented to you and you turn the attention onto the rigid thought control being injected into society by Totalitarian Liberalism and the Lavender Mafia. They're the bad guys here, they're the ones who need to rethink their zealotry. Don't be a meek coward - stand up for your beliefs and don't flinch from telling the truth that the bad guys are the ones who are out there braying for blood.
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Well, there really wouldn't have been any way to avoid some sort of compromise -- that was never on the menu. If I had been in his place, I guess what I might have tried was something along the lines of, "Yes, I supported prop 8, and now that it's been brought up I have to be completely honest that I don't regret it. That being said, it should also be noted that I have never brought my politics into Mozilla, don't intend to, and respect the image that Mozilla wants to project. It is my full intention to behave professionally in accordance with that belief because I think Mozilla is a great company and I can put aside my beliefs while helping to push Mozilla forward without drama. And you can expect that so long as I work here I will, as I have done, not do anything to reflect on Mozilla that will in any way change that spirit.

Or something like that. It could be worded better but you get the point. It would have been worth a shot if nothing else.
 
grip said:
I think it's just the issue. Certain subjects are so taboo to oppose that it draws out the "outrage" police. Most of society are politically becoming, over sensitive nutjobs.
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If a conservative, religious, company hired a CEO after asking him if there was anything in his personal life that could harm the company's image, and he tells them it's all good, and he turns out to be a drag queen... that's cool? They're stuck with him? Bull****. He committed fraud in the hiring process.

As -the- representative of the company, a CEO's personal life is on the table in the hiring process and he CLEARLY failed to disclose pertinent information.
 
RiverDad said:
You mean like Eich left his politics at home?
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Believe it or not, I largely agree with you. Eich did for all appearances do exactly that and left his politics at home. And for that reason he could have easily diffused the situation. Instead he took a "Eat it, bitches!" approach and, well, the rest is history.
 
ecofarm said:
If a conservative, religious, company hired a CEO after asking him if there was anything in his personal life that could harm the company's image, and he tells them it's all good, and he turns out to be a drag queen... that's cool? They're stuck with him? Bull****. He committed fraud in the hiring process.

As -the- representative of the company, a CEO's personal life is on the table in the hiring process and he CLEARLY failed to disclose pertinent information.
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Horse cookies. Are you saying he should've been fired for being a drag queen in his private life?

Personal life, should be just that "personal", as long as it doesn't interfere with business.
 
grip said:
Horse cookies. Are you saying he should've been fired for being a drag queen in his private life?

Personal life, should be just that "personal", as long as it doesn't interfere with business.
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We're not talking about a cashier, Grip. A CEO's personal life is absolutely on the table in the hiring process because he serves as -the- representative of the company.

He failed to disclose. It's fraud.
 
ecofarm said:
We're not talking about a cashier, Grip. A CEO's personal life is ABSOLUTELY on the table in the hiring process because he serves as -the- representative of the company.

He failed to disclose. It's fraud.
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Zebra fritters. Nobody should be held to that kind of invasive scrutiny, it's inhuman.
 
grip said:
Zebra fritters. Nobody should be held to that kind of invasive scrutiny, it's inhuman.
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Worry about it when you make millions.
 
ecofarm said:
Worry about it when you make millions.
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Rabbit pellets. The amount of salary is irrelevant. Even sitting Presidents have been more forgiven, and they're CEO's of a $multi-trillion nation.
 
Anthony60 said:
All of that is true.
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:roll: Contradictory statements cannot all be true. I should have guessed you'd never give a straight answer.
 
grip said:
Rabbit pellets. The amount of salary is irrelevant. Even sitting Presidents have been more forgiven, and they're CEO's of a $multi-trillion nation.
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So you insist on ignoring context?

A CEO's private life is on the table in the hiring process. We're not talking about a cashier. We're talking about the CEO.

I don't care if you like it, them's the facts. He committed fraud.
 
Cardinal said:
"No one?" Are you sure you don't want to think that one through a little bit longer?

Senator Ultra Liberal donates to the Nazi Party. Should he lose his job over this, yes or no?
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Yes, no one.
 
ecofarm said:
So you insist on ignoring context?

A CEO's private life is on the table in the hiring process. We're not talking about a cashier. We're talking about the ****ing CEO.
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I feel an outrage coming on, clear the room!
 
grip said:
I feel an outrage coming on, clear the room!
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If it was a religious company and the CEO turned out to be a drag queen, all the conservatives would be screaming about failure to disclose and fraud.

I'm I the only objective person here?
 
ecofarm said:
So you insist on ignoring context?

A CEO's private life is on the table in the hiring process. We're not talking about a cashier. We're talking about the CEO.

I don't care if you like it, them's the facts. He committed fraud.
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A cashier could be fired, too.
 
apdst said:
Yes, no one.
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So if Senator Ultra Liberal contributes to the Nazi Party, his constituents find out and feel that he doesn't represent their beliefs, they have no right to vote him out come next election because of the Nazi Party contribution? Is that what you're saying?
 
apdst said:
A cashier could be fired, too.
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I don't think so. A CEO, as -the- representative of the company, paid millions, is subject to far greater scrutiny of personal life.

And he's definitely required to disclose. A cashier is not required to disclose non-criminal.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't think so. A CEO, as -the- representative of the company, paid millions, is subject to far greater scrutiny of personal life.

And he's definitely required to disclose. A cashier is not required to disclose.
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That cashier would have to air his politics to such an extent that his presence became nearly as great as a CEO's, at which point I would say to the cashier, "Dude, what the hell."
 
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ecofarm said:
If it was a religious company and the CEO turned out to be a drag queen, all the conservatives would be screaming about failure to disclose and fraud.

I'm I the only objective person here?
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You're the one being the least objective.

It's fine if he wants to support certain political issues, regardless of how unpalatable. It's also the right of the company to fire him. But it is nutbar to claim it's all fair, good and equitable. The sensitivity needle is WAY too high for public image anymore.
 
grip said:
Horse cookies. Are you saying he should've been fired for being a drag queen in his private life?

Personal life, should be just that "personal", as long as it doesn't interfere with business.
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You're asking the wrong question. The real question is should customers be allowed to care about those things?
 
grip said:
I feel an outrage coming on, clear the room!
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are you going to let out human bombs? (sorry had to, your animal droppings posts was just too amusing)
 
ecofarm said:
If it was a religious company and the CEO turned out to be a drag queen, all the conservatives would be screaming about failure to disclose and fraud.

I'm I the only objective person here?
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Not all of'em.
 
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