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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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Mozilla's embattled chief executive is resigning after a revolt among employees drew attention to political contributions he made in 2008 opposing same-sex marriage.
The maker of the popular Firefox Web browser announced Thursday on its blog that Brendan Eich would no longer be serving as its chief executive — just days after Eich had taken the helm of the organization.
"We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right: it’s because we haven’t stayed true to ourselves," wrote executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/04/03/mozillas-ceo-steps-down-amid-gay-marriage-furor/
 
Cue the people who start crying about "freedom of speech" without understanding what it means.
 
He's a bigot. He can eat a ****.
 
I would not touch him even with your ****.

That was supposed to be feces and not fornication. I presume you would feed him my poop.
 
I would have mixed feelings about this if he was fired or forced to resign. I believe that employees have a right to express their political (or any other) opinions outside of work and I support legislation to protect that right. I also have no problem with the boycott. On the other hand, his actions were materially harming the company and a CEO represents the company to the public much more than any other employee does. Ultimately, CEO's do not need or deserve the same protections for their off-work activities that most other employees should have.
 
Cue the people who start crying about "freedom of speech" without understanding what it means.

Why? His Freedom of Speech was not violated.
 
I would have mixed feelings about this if he was fired or forced to resign. I believe that employees have a right to express their political (or any other) opinions outside of work and I support legislation to protect that right.

**** that. If you make my company look bad publicly, you're fired.
 
Why? His Freedom of Speech was not violated.

I know that. However, that won't stop people who don't understand what FoS means from claiming it was.
 
I'm eagerly awaiting the movies that Hollywood is going to produce about this new Blacklist and how they're going to paint homosexuals as evil totalitarians enforcing their viewpoint on everyone. I suspect I'm going to have to wait until the universe explodes for that to happen.

I can't wait until I can exercise some firing authority over a liberal or a homosexual I disagree with. I think that I can warm up to this notion that the Left is birthing - firing people for their opinions. You guys sure know how to win friends and influence people. No holds barred. I personally wouldn't have gone with that strategy, but I can learn new tricks and unilateral disarmament is not one of those tricks.
 
**** that. If you make my company look bad publicly, you're fired.

We can't have anything resembling a real democracy*if people are only allowed to publicly express opinions that their boss has approved.

*including representational democracy
 
We can't have anything resembling a real democracy*if people are only allowed to publicly express opinions that their boss has approved.

*including representational democracy

Well, corporations are democratic to some degree. I'm sure there was a vote before the Board told Brendan Eich he could leave the easy way or the hard way.
 
I'm eagerly awaiting the movies that Hollywood is going to produce about this new Blacklist and how they're going to paint homosexuals as evil totalitarians enforcing their viewpoint on everyone. I suspect I'm going to have to wait until the universe explodes for that to happen.

I can't wait until I can exercise some firing authority over a liberal or a homosexual I disagree with. I think that I can warm up to this notion that the Left is birthing - firing people for their opinions. You guys sure know how to win friends and influence people. No holds barred. I personally wouldn't have gone with that strategy, but I can learn new tricks and unilateral disarmament is not one of those tricks.

Yes, we are aware you are desperate to have some authority over anyone. I think its going to be a looooong wait. :lamo
 
We can't have anything resembling a real democracy*if people are only allowed to publicly express opinions that their boss has approved.

*including representational democracy

I'm not understanding you. Your comment can be read two ways. 1.) Some of Eich's employees went to twitter to call for him to be fired. 2.) Eich was fired by his board for donating to a legitimate political movement. Which employee and which opinion are your referring to?
 
I'm eagerly awaiting the movies that Hollywood is going to produce about this new Blacklist and how they're going to paint homosexuals as evil totalitarians enforcing their viewpoint on everyone. I suspect I'm going to have to wait until the universe explodes for that to happen.

I can't wait until I can exercise some firing authority over a liberal or a homosexual I disagree with. I think that I can warm up to this notion that the Left is birthing - firing people for their opinions. You guys sure know how to win friends and influence people. No holds barred. I personally wouldn't have gone with that strategy, but I can learn new tricks and unilateral disarmament is not one of those tricks.

I've hired people whose political opinions I disagree with a lot. As long as you can keep a professional atmosphere and the job is done then usually that's all that matters. You sound like you shouldn't be let within a thousand miles of authority.
 
Another fine example of tolerance given by those demanding toleration.. (sarcasm)

Apparently, they (Mozilla) may not be very strong on "freedom of speech"

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[B..........]On Thursday, Executive Chairwoman Mitchell Baker confirmed Eich’s departure in a blog post on the company’s website.

.Baker said........“Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it,” she wrote. “We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right: it’s because we haven’t stayed true to ourselves.” “Mozilla believes both in equality and freedom of speech,” she said.
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Eich chose to step down from his role and made the decision “for Mozilla and our community.”


The departure came a day after Eich insisted he would not leave the company over his support for Proposition 8.

“I don't want to talk about my personal beliefs because I kept them out of Mozilla all these 15 years we've been going,” he told the Guardian. “I don't believe they're relevant.”

Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[/B]

Pathetic state of affairs

Thom Paine
 
By these standards shouldn't the Koch Brothers be fired?
 
I've hired people whose political opinions I disagree with a lot. As long as you can keep a professional atmosphere and the job is done then usually that's all that matters. You sound like you shouldn't be let within a thousand miles of authority.

I had hiring and managerial authority when I was in the business world. I didn't care about the personal lives or opinions of the people I hired and managed.

Right now I'm in a line of work where I don't have hiring authority. What I'm saying is that liberals and homosexuals are teaching me some good lessons. No holds barred. Harm your political enemies. Do whatever it takes to harm people with opinions different than you. I saw it with Chick-fil-A, I saw it with Phil Robertson, and now I see it with Brendan Eich. Show no nuance, show no tolerance, show nothing but brute power. OK, I'm learning.
 
I had hiring and managerial authority when I was in the business world. I didn't care about the personal lives or opinions of the people I hired and managed.

Right now I'm in a line of work where I don't have hiring authority. What I'm saying is that liberals and homosexuals are teaching me some good lessons. No holds barred. Harm your political enemies. Do whatever it takes to harm people with opinions different than you. I saw it with Chick-fil-A, I saw it with Phil Robertson, and now I see it with Brendan Eich. Show no nuance, show no tolerance, show nothing but brute power. OK, I'm learning.

Then it sounds like you're not ready to wield authority again, because you don't seem to understand what the story is about. Mozilla clearly wanted to project a type of image about itself, and Eich's public behavior ran contrary to that image. There are cases where the lines between personal behavior vs. institution's desired image can get really blurry. This is not one of them.
 
From the reactions it would almost seem like he raped or murdered someone.

Nope, he just donated money to a group that supported Prop 8. The fact that his company (from what I've read) gave benefits to LGBTQ couples in their company and pushed to not have discriminatory practices is irrelevant.

The anti-SSM bullying should stop, but I doubt it will happen. But then again, companies and society shouldn't be catering to the brainless bigots that would want to punish, fire or harm those that disagree with their views on marriage.
 
We can't have anything resembling a real democracy*if people are only allowed to publicly express opinions that their boss has approved.

*including representational democracy

If an employee in my company hurts the company, I have every right to fire them. CEOs are hired not only as managers but as representatives.
 
"seems" he did things that supported the fight against equal rights for gays and maybe even bigoted things, but they are legal and thats his right
seems employees found out about it and voiced their disapproval
seems customers found out about and voiced their disapproval
then it seems he stepped down

now i havent looked up many articles on this YET but so far i see ZERO issue with this, why should I? :shrug:
 
Then it sounds like you're not ready to wield authority again, because you don't seem to understand what the story is about. Mozilla clearly wanted to project a type of image about itself, and Eich's public behavior ran contrary to that image. There are cases where the lines between personal behavior vs. institution's desired image can get really blurry. This is not one of them.

Maybe you're right. Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, is homosexual. If his being homosexual gets in the way of Apple's image then I'm sure that you'd be OK with them firing him. Same with a woman CEO.

I'm fine with one standard being applied across the board.

But here's some more history about liberal/homosexual totalitarianism:

Scott Eckern, the Sacramento theater director whose political donation in support of California's Prop. 8 ban on same-sex marriage has become a lightning rod in the debate over gay rights, resigned today.​

Frontiers magazine is reporting that Marjorie "Margie" Christoffersen has stepped down as manager of El Coyote restaurant and resigning as a board member over all the Prop 8 hooplah. The controversy started when the LGBT community found out Christoffersen donated $100 to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign​

The whole point of open-records laws is to bring transparency to politics, to insure that corruption is not taking place. Instead we see liberals/homosexuals launching vendettas. OK, if that's the new game, then I say employers should have complete freedom to fire homosexuals and liberals just for voting Democrat.
 
Really, how is this any different than firing or harassing someone over their views on homosexuality or if they've had homosexual sex? It's not much different, at the root he was fired/harassed over his personal views and lifestyle choice with his own money.
 
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