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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And we can all remember how Larry Craig was treated by the Democrats
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    The GOP loved him, eh?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    My understanding was that he left (probably after being convinced to do so) the company due to some percentage of their customers complaining about his actions (unreasonably, I think).

    It may not be fair to him, but I can see the logic behind not having a controversial person as CEO.
    But why is it 'controversial' at all?

    The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

    And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The GOP loved him, eh?
    Where did I say that? Please use the quote system.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But why is it 'controversial' at all?

    The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

    And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?
    IRS didn't release anything on Eich, other employees found the information, as any political contribution $1,000 or more is public, and made it public, causing a huge, over zealous commotion in the customer base, turning Eich into a corporate liability, forcing him to resign.

    I'd still like to know more about whom at the company pushed this info on Eich out to the public's attention, and why, as it was years ago in an environment where many prominent politicians and other public figures were of the same position without suffering the wrath of LBGT bigots and extremists.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Perhaps. We do have very polarizing politics. I think it's unfortunate since both parties have a right to their beliefs and political freedom of pushing policy and protesting policy. No one is inherently wrong. With that said there is always a price we pay for living in a democracy and I wouldn't have it any other way. Unfortunately, this will only lead to a push for less transparency because money buys power. I'm a realist and acknowledge not much good will be won out of this case. The protestors may have won this battle but not necessarily the war.
    I think they have won the war. The schools and universities are turning out more politically correct conformists every day and any diversion from 'the truth' will cause people to lose their jobs as well as to be publicly ostracized.

    Brendan Eich will now have difficulty being hired anywhere but with his intelligence and leadership skills he can probably start his own company. Others with fewer skills or connections may not be so lucky when they are hit for their political donations..

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But why is it 'controversial' at all?

    The man gave $1000 to Proposition 8, as is his right, and that becomes a reason for being let go? Are we really going to have to worry about how we vote so those who hold opposing views won't some day persecute us for it?

    And what about the involvement of the IRS here? Is that not arousing any concerns?
    I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...

    My understanding of the situation is that he donated some money half a decade ago or so, someone in the company called him on it and made it public (seems like BS to me, who cares what you donated to 5 years ago, I know my opinions on **** change in 5 years), and the mob turned against him (or was turned against him?), which led to his removing himself from the position (probably for the good of the company, perhaps that should be in quotes?...run on sentence, whatever).

    It seems like some bull**** to me, but at the same time if the mob doesn't like you and your company runs partially on popularity, you have to appease the mob to stay in business.

    And I'm using "mob" here to refer to the masses of semi-mindless persons who make up humanity (sure as hell we've all been part of a mob on some scale at some point in our lives, whether we realize it or not).
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Right, because a protest is an expression of objection to political points of view and happens in democracies all the time. A company makes it's own decision if their employee is a liability to their product/service, as have many a shock jock been canned for public out cries and more. Again, it's called living in a democracy. People have a total right to be haters, prejudice, moral repressors...... but don't be shocked when there are consequences to such behavior, especially if you harm business profits. That is the bottom line to every business.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Suppression is suppression. The two acts are on the same continuum. Orwell had it right.
    That's utterly bat**** absurd.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...
    Some insane and unprincipled IRS official leaked the list of donors to the press and the IRS is now closing ranks and keeping mum about who broke the law. There was a link to a news report about this upthread. Search for IRS.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I haven't heard anything about IRS involvement...

    My understanding of the situation is that he donated some money half a decade ago or so, someone in the company called him on it and made it public (seems like BS to me, who cares what you donated to 5 years ago, I know my opinions on **** change in 5 years), and the mob turned against him (or was turned against him?), which led to his removing himself from the position (probably for the good of the company, perhaps that should be in quotes?...run on sentence, whatever).

    It seems like some bull**** to me, but at the same time if the mob doesn't like you and your company runs partially on popularity, you have to appease the mob to stay in business.

    And I'm using "mob" here to refer to the masses of semi-mindless persons who make up humanity (sure as hell we've all been part of a mob on some scale at some point in our lives, whether we realize it or not).
    And he stood his ground against that mob (for what it's worth) rather than opting to express any sort of evolution on his part. It's important to keep in mind that he actually had the opportunity to respond to his detractors, and did in fact do so. People here would have you believe that he just stood by dumbstruck as a rabble of unwashed 18th century angry French peasants stormed into his office and threw him out a window from the 50th floor (it's picturesque if nothing else).

    As for Grant, keep in mind he's not aware of any rights being denied to gay people. He's hopeless uninformed on the subject.

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