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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Read the amendment, and its history. It was an explicit attempt to strip rights then held by gays, and to forever limit them. This isn't actually up for debate.
    It says "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." So, it clearly defines marriage. It doesn't strip any rights from anyone. This isn't actually up for debate. (Cool how I can just make that declaration).
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Has I opined that CEO's are "supreme dictators" I would have said so. Give your head a shake and then deal with what was actually said, not something that you happened to imagine.
    Well, something in your thinking is out of kilt if you think Eich could come back and be permitted to fire everybody.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It was made into a PR liability by people wishing to silence dissent by targeting individuals to intimidate others. And they are absolutely willing to use government to do it.


    Incorrect - everyone will simply then disagree on what "logic and reason" say. The people who win are those who can garner the most public support.
    Not even true, in this case.

    In spite of all the wrong-wing political correctness on the subject, every time the matter has actually been put to a vote of the people—including twice in California—the people have overwhelmingly voted in favor of protecting marriage; and against upholding the sick mockery of marriage that the far-wrong is trying to force on us.

    It's not about public support; it's about the effective use of lies, propaganda, intimidation, and abuse of power; on the part of a minority who want to force a radical view on a majority that opposes it; and knows very well that it can ever hope to successfully do so by honest, ethical means.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Great point. If this guy is a bigot then so is Obama and Clinton and a majority of the people in California. This is how we throw it back in their dishonest faces. We point out that most of America and the planet do not agree with them. We point out that except for weasel politicians, activist judges and some spineless corporate board of directors, they are in the minority view.

    Treating this guy like he is Fred Phelps is illogical. He donated to a bonafide political group which sought to sponsor legislation to make laws democratically within in the system--- he is entitled to his view. Isn't that what this country is supposed be about?
    That they are hypocrites and not often familiar with the facts should be no surprise, but these people need be exposed as to who they really are, just as with any other charlatans.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, something in your thinking is out of kilt if you think Eich could come back and be permitted to fire everybody.
    A few more shakes might help. That was a hypothetical.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not even true, in this case.

    In spite of all the wrong-wing political correctness on the subject, every time the matter has actually been put to a vote of the people—including twice in California—the people have overwhelmingly voted in favor of protecting marriage; and against upholding the sick mockery of marriage that the far-wrong is trying to force on us.

    It's not about public support; it's about the effective use of lies, propaganda, intimidation, and abuse of power; on the part of a minority who want to force a radical view on a majority that opposes it; and knows very well that it can ever hope to successfully do so by honest, ethical means.
    California could have voted to enslave Chinese people, it still would have been hilariously unconstitutional and thrown out by the courts.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It says "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." So, it clearly defines marriage. It doesn't strip any rights from anyone. This isn't actually up for debate. (Cool how I can just make that declaration).
    You are correct. No rights were removed at all. The vote was on whether marriage should be recognized between a couple other than a man and a woman.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A few more shakes might help. That was a hypothetical.
    Well, your hypothetical doesn't even occupy this reality, so frankly it was a terrible hypothetical.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are correct. No rights were removed at all.
    You are not qualified to participate in this discussion, though it's clear you will continue to do so anyway.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    California could have voted to enslave Chinese people, it still would have been hilariously unconstitutional and thrown out by the courts.
    That would have been removing a right, not adding a right. It makes no sense.

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