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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That just makes no sense in the context of this discussion. Prop 8 was a constitutional amendment. And gays have pursued their efforts entirely legally, unless I missed when Dictator Rainbow unilaterally changed the laws in California or elsewhere (morally is subjective).

    But since you don't approve of using the courts to affect legislation, I expect you opposed the filing of lawsuits seeking to overturn Obamacare? I'm sure that was an illegitimate effort to get a handful of people in black robes to enforce their will to repeal Obamacare on everyone else, like it or not. Right?
    Oh, I guess I missed the election where we voted on Obamacare. That would never happen, of course, because it would lose horribly. So, why would I oppose a lawsuit against Obamacare, that is a completely different situation? That is the other point, that the federal courts have no jurisdiction here. The Constitution does not grant the feds authority here, so it is thereby reserved by the states.

    Stop trying to twist my words to fit your argument.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'm actually not condemning Eich for his decision to stand up to them. As I've said several times in this thread it's an ethical dilemma everyone faces: acquiesce and keep your job, or stand up for your principals and risk losing it. Eich chose the latter. It's naive to think one should never face any risks for standing up for your principals. It's certainly naive to think that Mozilla didn't have the right for standing up for theirs. It's hypocritical if nothing else.
    He made a political donation several years ago and that information was leaked by the IRS. Any lost principals here were by the IRS and those who condemn him for making a legal contribution to a legal campaign. Leftists would never condemn Barrack Obama for sharing Eich's opinion, which further demonstrates their ongoing hypocrisies.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So nobody should make political contributions - ever - because years down the road your employer may force you out because of them?
    You got THAT from my post?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did the employees of Mozilla have a vote? Apparently you must lose your job if you contribute to any campaign of which others disagree. I cannot see the upside to this.
    Yes, the employees' opinions count, and as to the second part of your post, that has been covered to death. If you are politically active you will make enemies. Think I'm wrong? Tell us your real name.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If an employee in my company hurts the company, I have every right to fire them. CEOs are hired not only as managers but as representatives.
    He donated to prop 8 before he was a CEO. What if he had donated money to the foundation supporting the Equal Rights Amendment in the '80s?

    I'm calling the gay rights agenda people out as being intolerant bigots, every bit as scary as the McCarthy era folks who sought to blacklist people based on their political views.

    The current gay agenda is using fear, bigotry and intolerance as a club to get their way. How is this any different than the Westboro Church folks?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Leftist seem to be doing a bad job of 'silencing' speakers with whom they disagree.
    Not at all. There are regularly speakers at universities and elsewhere who are shouted down when trying to speak or who are 'dis-invited' because of 'security problems'.

    The CEO is the face of the company. That's part of why they get the big bucks. When the face of the company holds public views contrary to key demographics related to his business, and wants to enforce those views on others through a constitutional amendment, he should probably expect some backlash.
    His vote for proposition 8 occurred six years ago and 52% of the Californiia voters agreed with him, as well as Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Should they also lose their jobs or, in Hillary's case, be disallowed from seeking public office? Mozilla's Gay-Marriage Litmus Test Violates Liberal Values - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Yet, you're unable to explain your caustic response to my post? Does my post have no place in American society? Does my simile (more likely an analogy) have any relevance to the discussion of gay marriage?
    Cabse, you actually don't understand what rights are being denied to gay people. Until you can understand that you're simply not qualified to participate in any discussion on anything related to gay rights. It would be like me contributing to a discussion on zoroastrianism. I don't know **** about zorastrianism and would only make an idiot of myself if I were to throw my opinions around in a thread on that topic.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    so everyone should just roll over to your opinion or else be fired. no thanks we live in american not north korea
    we don't punish people for opposing opinions. north korea does though.
    Nice hysteria. Maybe you should throw the Holocaust into it while you're at it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He made a political donation several years ago and that information was leaked by the IRS. Any lost principals here were by the IRS and those who condemn him for making a legal contribution to a legal campaign. Leftists would never condemn Barrack Obama for sharing Eich's opinion, which further demonstrates their ongoing hypocrisies.
    Where your argument fails is that nobody would argue that people shouldn't be allowed to vote against Obama because he's demonstrated that he doesn't share their beliefs.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, sure it has. It's all a big conspiracy.
    No, it's a matter of ignorance of what the Constitution and the ideas of free speech really stand for.

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