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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    If he's a bigot, then those pushing gay marriage are also bigots. No rights were stripped, or proposed to be stripped from anyone. What's so hard to understand?
    Read the amendment, and its history. It was an explicit attempt to strip rights then held by gays, and to forever limit them. This isn't actually up for debate.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually, just to illustrate your totally unfounded assumptions here, I used to vehemently rail against gay marriage, until before even being a member of this site, I was in a debate on another site, and was in a respectful, and informative debate I changed my mind. So, long story short, for about the past 6 years, I have supported the right of anyone to "marry" anyone they wish...But, apparently the bar now seems to be not only support, but I must shout it from the rooftops to be believed. I just don't care about it that much....However, your assumption is wrong. And to avoid looking foolish in the future, I would suggest that you hold off on assuming things about people you don't even know.
    I apologize for that assumption, but the bolded part makes the same point. It's not an issue you care about. I don't know why we should expect others, who are personally affected, should have the same take it or leave attitude as you.

    And I don't know what the protesters expected, but since he didn't even make a feeble attempt to distance himself from his previous support for LGBT second class status, we can't know if protesters demand he shout from the rooftops. He didn't offer even the mildest support for their current right to marry, or indicate he would no longer fight against SSM. He did express support for tolerance in the workplace, which is just different.

    Not every thing you want to change about society is all of the sudden "a right"..... THAT is more what I am arguing against rather than whether or not Joe, and Steve whom have been together for 20 years want to have a wedding.
    Marriage is a right - the Supreme Court has a long line of cases saying as much. Whether it should be extended to SS couples is the question.

    Hypothetical arguments are for losing debates....Stick with facts and you'll fare better.
    The point was to try to extend similar facts to a 'right' others might find worth protecting.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Protest does not hound a man from his work and destroy his livelihood to make a political point. That's something much uglier.
    Right, because a protest is an expression of objection to political points of view and happens in democracies all the time. A company makes it's own decision if their employee is a liability to their product/service, as have many a shock jock been canned for public out cries and more. Again, it's called living in a democracy. People have a total right to be haters, prejudice, moral repressors...... but don't be shocked when there are consequences to such behavior, especially if you harm business profits. That is the bottom line to every business.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, it's the fascism itself rather than this particular "fashion" that is dangerous to all of us.
    I'm really surprised at characterizing fighting for some cause one believes in as 'fascism.'

    And they didn't "silence' opposing opinions. They expressed extreme disapproval of someone's support for an attempt to strip them of their rights. As someone mentioned earlier, gays protested Chic Fil A and the Duck Dynasty guy. They expressed disapproval, the supporters of Chic Fil A and Duck guy expressed their approval through social media, and nothing happened. Gun owners protested a column in Guns & Ammo and the guy was fired. I don't see fascism in any of that, just people speaking their mind, exercising their political rights, and sometimes there are consequences and sometimes there aren't.

    I think we'd all agree if the guy donated $1,000 to the KKK, he should have been fired. So what we're talking about is the seriousness of the issue, not whether people have a right to object with what the CEO politically supports on his personal time.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Protest does not hound a man from his work and destroy his livelihood to make a political point. That's something much uglier.

    “Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
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    ‘Bastion of intolerance and punishment’: Tammy Bruce shreds Mozilla for caving to ‘gay gestapo’ | Twitchy


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    Hi @mozilla, I'm a gay woman who is appalled that you caved to the Gay Gestapo. So who else will be pressured to leave for not conforming?
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    Gay civil rights movement began to make sure people weren't punished for who they were. Now look what you've become #gaygestapo @mozilla
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    The actions of a self righteous segment of the left have become more than only unsavory.

    OK Cupid apparently needed free publicity; and found willing participants to engage in and egregiously inflict upon another those specific behaviors that those participants so vociferously protest.

    A pathetic portrayal of tolerance from those demanding such.


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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    ‘Bastion of intolerance and punishment’: Tammy Bruce shreds Mozilla for caving to ‘gay gestapo’ | Twitchy


    Excerpts:

    Hi @mozilla, I'm a gay woman who is appalled that you caved to the Gay Gestapo. So who else will be pressured to leave for not conforming?
    2:24 PM - 3 Apr 2014



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    Gay civil rights movement began to make sure people weren't punished for who they were. Now look what you've become #gaygestapo @mozilla
    2:27 PM - 3 Apr 2014
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    The actions of a self righteous segment of the left have become more than only unsavory.

    OK Cupid apparently needed free publicity; and found willing participants to engage in and egregiously inflict upon another those specific behaviors that those participants so vociferously protest.

    A pathetic portrayal of tolerance from those demanding such.


    Thom Paine
    What a shocker. Protestors being portrayed as "Gestapo" and CEO portrayed as victim. Pretty transparent.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What a shocker. Protestors being portrayed as "Gestapo" and CEO portrayed as victim. Pretty transparent.
    you stop being a protestor and starting being the thought police when you try to force people to be fired because they don't believe what you do.
    just like the chicfila backlash this will have a backlash to.

    all of it negative on the gay right movement. they are doing themselves more harm than good.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    I have a question to ask..... Why do some people here feel that giving unlimited amounts of corporation money to candidates should be considered free speech, but people choosing not to buy a product because it does not represent their political views is not free speech, but persecution?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you stop being a protestor and starting being the thought police when you try to force people to be fired because they don't believe what you do.
    just like the chicfila backlash this will have a backlash to.

    all of it negative on the gay right movement. they are doing themselves more harm than good.
    Oh, so they forced the company to fire him. It had nothing to do with his actions that the company found as a liability to their product.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have a question to ask..... Why do some people here feel that giving unlimited amounts of corporation money to candidates should be considered free speech, but people choosing not to buy a product because it does not represent their political views is not free speech, but persecution?
    Similar questions have been asked throughout the thread. No answers yet. Glaringly ignored is the fact that nobody questions that it's perfectly acceptable to vote out your representative for holding to a different set of beliefs than your own. The logic fail of the people in defense of Eich is nothing short of remarkable.
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